Now that it's sunken in... Where you at with Nelo?

[Dip_Slide]

Until he signs to test 365 he's a cheater in my book. If and when he signs up and maintains testing, pretty much all is forgiven.

Absolutely, simple as that! If he would've gotten caught for a real steroid however my stance on him would be different.

[extracurRICular]

Until he signs to test 365 he's a cheater in my book. If and when he signs up and maintains testing, pretty much all is forgiven.

So by your logic EVERY SINGLE BOXER IN THE WORLD is a cheat? or every single athlete for that matter........who does 365? would you be ok with being pocked and prodded your entire life? Cmon' Countchocula...grow up peterpan...It's the first quarter of the big game and you wanna toss up a hail Mary? I'd like to be pimps from Oakland or cowboys from Arizona but it's not Halloween.

[BLACK KNOT]

he's a cheat and always has been. *** him

[Bad_Guy]

he's a cheat and always has been. *** him

This. 365 VADA testing is the only thing that will convince me he's clean going forward. He'll never agree to that though. He'll probably do WADA to convince some of his fans, who don't know the difference.

[4truth]

So by your logic EVERY SINGLE BOXER IN THE WORLD is a cheat? or every single athlete for that matter........who does 365? would you be ok with being pocked and prodded your entire life? Cmon' Countchocula...grow up peterpan...It's the first quarter of the big game and you wanna toss up a hail Mary? I'd like to be pimps from Oakland or cowboys from Arizona but it's not Halloween.

Every boxer who has ever failed a drug test should be required, yes.
Every boxer who has a title or is in contention for one, yes.

[BLACK KNOT]

This. 365 VADA testing is the only thing that will convince me he's clean going forward. He'll never agree to that though. He'll probably do WADA to convince some of his fans, who don't know the difference.

for sure and to think I used to like clenlo. boxing really needs to give out lifetime bans it'll never happen because of money.

[extracurRICular]

Every boxer who has ever failed a drug test should be required, yes.
Every boxer who has a title or is in contention for one, yes.

How realistic is this doe?

[BrometheusBob.]

What are the forum's thoughts on the hair test? I'm guessing the pro-GGG crowd have largely dismissed it as irrelevant even though, objectively, it lends credence to the tainted meat explanation.

[BrometheusBob.]

Antonio Margarito had 40 fights where his gloves passed inspection by the commission and other coaches. So that means hes free from scrutiny right?

The difference here is that each inspection of gloves is independent, whereas a hair sample can often come up positive long after use. We also know from previous studies that meat from Mexico can trigger clen positive results.

I'm just saying there is enough objective evidence to cast doubt as to whether he used. There is a chance he used, but there is basically no chance he was a long-term user of clen or the hair sample would have come up positive.

[Joe Beamish]

With Canelo, I have two choices: Either he's really ****** or he's a cheater.

He and his team don't seem ****** or uninformed to me.