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  • #51
    The article is faithful to the triangle of justice: protection, freedom and justice

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    • #52
      This is bad journalism. There's only one side making this complicated and that's Joshua.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Blackclouds View Post
        This is bad journalism. There's only one side making this complicated and that's Joshua.
        Finkel, a veteran of the boxing scene, added: “When I had (Mike) Tyson and (Evander) Holyfield, I picked up the phone. That’s all we need to do here.


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        April 2nd


        So he talked via COMMUNICATING then but refuses to do so here in this situation and sends vague Emails instead but admits its very simple through talking ?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
          Finkel, a veteran of the boxing scene, added: “When I had (Mike) Tyson and (Evander) Holyfield, I picked up the phone. That’s all we need to do here.


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          April 2nd


          So he talked via COMMUNICATING then but refuses to do so here in this situation and sends vague Emails instead but admits its very simple through talking ?
          WTF are you even talking about. Who cares about the method of communication which is as simple and even easier than a phone call. The fact is AJ/Hearn turned down the 50 million that AJ asked for because they don't want the fight. Pure duck move.

          Mike Tyson wasn't keen on fighting Holyfield so you made a pure smelly crap analogy, as that fight got canceled the first time around because they waited around too long and something happened twice, a loss, and then a conviction. For your analogy to be anywhere close to relevant, you'd have to be talking about Wilder and Joshua fighting 5 years later like in 2023 after both taking loses in between. Probably something that you want as you have that foul sent of AJ protector in your post. That fight happened over 5 years late and both past their prime. Anybody who wants that to happen with Wilder and AJ aren't real boxing fans.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Blackclouds View Post
            WTF are you even talking about. Who cares about the method of communication which is as simple and even easier than a phone call. The fact is AJ/Hearn turned down the 50 million that AJ asked for because they don't want the fight. Pure duck move.

            Mike Tyson wasn't keen on fighting Holyfield so you made a pure smelly crap analogy, as that fight got canceled the first time around because they waited around too long and something happened twice, a loss, and then a conviction. For your analogy to be anywhere close to relevant, you'd have to be talking about Wilder and Joshua fighting 5 years later like in 2023 after both taking loses in between. Probably something that you want as you have that foul sent of AJ protector in your post. That fight happened over 5 years late and both past their prime. Anybody who wants that to happen with Wilder and AJ aren't real boxing fans.

            I didnt say anything about why Tyson fights didnt happen ?


            My post is relevant bc all you need is to pick up a phone and talk according to Finkel .

            He refused to talk to Hearn about what the stipulations are .

            A real boxing fan would be mad if their fighters manager was delaying the fight from happening !

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            • #56
              Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
              The only thing thats complicated is that Mismatchroom and A.J find themselves as the B side, know your role ; Deontay is paying you twice what you earned.

              Joshua is lucky that Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder is not asking him to sign with AL Haymon and fight Luis Ortiz for dat 50 million.
              From which fight is that gif?

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                Not really. Just a bunch of bull**** fake news stories about fake negotiations designed to get fans riled up and create interest in the fight. Same playbook as May-Pac except supposedly those promoters really didn't get along so it all happened naturally. Or, maybe that was fake behind the scenes and both Arum and Haymon/Floyd wanted to drag it out because both sides were making so much money in the meantime, so both sides agreed to exchange ridiculous excuses for why the fight couldn't happen.

                Who knows about that. But this one, with Haymon and Hearn who have worked together many times, is clearly fake. For years, Wilder has not wanted to fight anyone, then suddenly one day it was like boxing fans woke up, and suddenly every boxing news site was pushing out Joshua-Wilder news stories five times per day, as if they were all on the payroll of the promoters and they were following a plan that was written up. It happened in a very unnatural, obvious way. Joshua isn't well known in the U.S., and Wilder isn't well known, so they've created all this 100% fake drama as a way to hype up the fight. It's too obvious. But like I said, the weirdest part to me is how so many boxing news sites are playing along 100% as if they are part of the promotion, not news sites, and it all started as if it was in coordination, all around the same time. Can anyone explain it? It was like boxingscene and Boxing Ego, for example, were on the exact same page, despite the fact they are supposed to be completely independent en******. I don't get it!
                Exactly, and it is working perfectly for all parties involved. Cant help but wonder if they threw out a 50million offer to get big investors even more interested, driving up the price, makes you wonder. It is just all too perfect.

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                • #58
                  Wilder is a chump AJ will ko him

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
                    It was a bit childish on my part I can openly admit it. Now I like Deontay Wilder so I don’t want to **** on him just to prove a point to you.😂😂 but I will here goes...... No I won’t but in all honesty Deontay has had 40 fights. Joshua has had 21 fights. Deontay has been a pro longer than him yet Joshua has 3 belts compared to Wilders one. I rate Ortiz irrespective of what anyone says about him he is a bad dangerous dude and props for coming through that but even with that victory you have not reached that apex to look down at another champions opponents and call them all bums especially when that champion, forget money because that’s bull**** but holds more belts than you, has fought a similar bum to you which the particular bum in question gave him a stanky leg and you fight another of his bums in Brezeale that he fought 2 years ago in his 16th fight
                    They've both fought pretty much the same level of comp. Wilders fought DOUBLE the amount. The only difference btwn the two is that Hearn & Crew has done an extraordinary job in commercial promotional campaigning hype for AJ.

                    He (AJ) didnt need much in the way of promoting in a country devoid of any type of champion like him (good lookin', muscular gold medal olympian). Lennox was your last bonafide champ that many of you all didnt even like and who wasnt promoted half as good as AJ......

                    we have TONS of champions out here in every sport (I'm not exaggerating), and we have superstars from colleges, high schools and minor leagues just waiting for the "drafts" to join in on the pro level. Kids & adults have their "ride or die" they roll with till the end of their careers.

                    AJ has NOTHING OVER Wilder except well placed "HYPE!" and its the reason Hearn doesnt "want to know" where the 50mil comes from and why he's all of a sudden decided not to "OVERPAY" Wilder, but gladly "OVERPAID" prior "lesser" opposition (u don't like the term "bums")....

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                    • #60
                      Wilder should accept his roll he’s pretty much irrelevant AJ is younger and has 3 belts wilder is a coward chump

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