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Originally posted by McNulty
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In boxing history (barring Robinson) every fighter that fought trilogies with another opponent, both leave special pieces of themselves in the ring. If you can't understand that, YDKSAB.
Morales for instance, first fought Manny in 2005 after his 3rd war with MAB. Look at Morales in the Raheem fight, the fight right before Pacquiao 2, that's not the same Morales man. I watched those guys with a fine toothed comb and Erik was a pale shadow of his former self against Raheem. Plus he had been pro for 12 years (normal prime years are 14-16 which can be further calibrated by your career contents*). Normal pro prime age ends 32-34 (18+14=32), Morales started young so -1 year and minus more due to damage taken along the way and here we are at 30 in Erik's case. Instead of 14, we have a 12 due to age and damage which is very reasonable. Some guys are shot after 7 or 8 years (Marciano [8], Bowe [7]).
Morales was barely 17 when he turned pro, like 2 months in. If you start at 18, a pro career prime years do 14-16 years. Being that Morales started at 17, he was 30 and shot due to damage he took along the way (what I call career contents). Morales was not only shot from MAB, but at the end of his natural prime. To ignore this is folly and a result of an inexperienced or inept mind.
MAB turned fùcking pro in the 80's man! He fought Pacquiao in 2003!!! After two grueling wars with arguably the best FW in Boxing history Erik Morales. Those were real wars not some bullshít Gatti.Ward bumfight wankfest. These were two ATG's going to war. Wear and tear from extreme wars and being pro for 14 years (definitely at the end of his career prime). What the fùck does it matter if he recently beat NAZ?
Do the research, pro careers go 14-16 years and 16 years in your toast fighting b-level fighters otherwise you're losing. 14 is the beginning of that and thats if you dont take a lot of punishment or in a lot of wars. Add wars+punishment and that number shrinks.
Pacquiao's career is filled with excellent match-making. Even Mosely Roach said on film he was too dangerous, Shane loses a fight or so looking beatable and Manny gets the fight. Manny's entire career is like that. Look vulnerable, insert Manny at the weakest point.
You got sold, pure and simple. I know it's hard and you'll probably never admit being duped because it's a defense/survival mechanism in your brain. If you admit you got duped, you'll start thinking well if I was duped there what else was I duped? Then your entire world starts crumbling piece by piece. It's either that or stay insane for the duration.
I don't remember who held the big belts back then. If you ask that question one more time I'm ignoring you. You asked that SAME FÙCKING QUESTION so many times it's making me mad. Go and LOOK FOR YOURSELF YOU LAZY FÙCK.
Until then, put my jockstrap down because you're going to hurt yourself.
Morales for instance, first fought Manny in 2005 after his 3rd war with MAB. Look at Morales in the Raheem fight, the fight right before Pacquiao 2, that's not the same Morales man. I watched those guys with a fine toothed comb and Erik was a pale shadow of his former self against Raheem. Plus he had been pro for 12 years (normal prime years are 14-16 which can be further calibrated by your career contents*). Normal pro prime age ends 32-34 (18+14=32), Morales started young so -1 year and minus more due to damage taken along the way and here we are at 30 in Erik's case. Instead of 14, we have a 12 due to age and damage which is very reasonable. Some guys are shot after 7 or 8 years (Marciano [8], Bowe [7]).
Morales was barely 17 when he turned pro, like 2 months in. If you start at 18, a pro career prime years do 14-16 years. Being that Morales started at 17, he was 30 and shot due to damage he took along the way (what I call career contents). Morales was not only shot from MAB, but at the end of his natural prime. To ignore this is folly and a result of an inexperienced or inept mind.
MAB turned fùcking pro in the 80's man! He fought Pacquiao in 2003!!! After two grueling wars with arguably the best FW in Boxing history Erik Morales. Those were real wars not some bullshít Gatti.Ward bumfight wankfest. These were two ATG's going to war. Wear and tear from extreme wars and being pro for 14 years (definitely at the end of his career prime). What the fùck does it matter if he recently beat NAZ?
Do the research, pro careers go 14-16 years and 16 years in your toast fighting b-level fighters otherwise you're losing. 14 is the beginning of that and thats if you dont take a lot of punishment or in a lot of wars. Add wars+punishment and that number shrinks.
Pacquiao's career is filled with excellent match-making. Even Mosely Roach said on film he was too dangerous, Shane loses a fight or so looking beatable and Manny gets the fight. Manny's entire career is like that. Look vulnerable, insert Manny at the weakest point.
You got sold, pure and simple. I know it's hard and you'll probably never admit being duped because it's a defense/survival mechanism in your brain. If you admit you got duped, you'll start thinking well if I was duped there what else was I duped? Then your entire world starts crumbling piece by piece. It's either that or stay insane for the duration.
I don't remember who held the big belts back then. If you ask that question one more time I'm ignoring you. You asked that SAME FÙCKING QUESTION so many times it's making me mad. Go and LOOK FOR YOURSELF YOU LAZY FÙCK.
Until then, put my jockstrap down because you're going to hurt yourself.
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