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which are the 8 divisions pac won a world title in EXACTLY?

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  • #31
    How can manny beating David Diaz be a more credible title win than beating Barrera or hatton?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      What’s the definition of a “real world title”


      How can you claim that the sanctioning bodies’ belts are credible, then say hatton wasn’t in a meaningful fight in 2 years, when he had just beaten urango for the ibf belt?
      He fought Urango before Mayweather you got your dates wrong

      There are dozens of belts if we count every belt holder as a champion we would never have an undisputed champion at any division boxing only recognize WBC WBA IBF and WBO ad real world titles

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
        What’s the definition of a “real world title”
        The OP has said it 30 dozen x. WBA,WBC,WBO, IBF.

        Reading the posts in this thread is like watching Groundhog Day on loop.

        via GIPHY

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          112
          122
          126
          130
          135
          140
          147
          154


          Some were paper titles, some were legit, regardless manny has won belts in 8 weight classes recognized by the major organizations and media
          He beat Floyd, Floyd is 130 to 152 22 pounds While Manny 112 to 150 thats 38 pounds . Fighter of the Decade

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          • #35
            i say let the paci's have this nugget of recognition. in the end, hes just # 48 and got robbed by a school teacher.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Phenom View Post
              He fought Urango before Mayweather you got your dates wrong

              There are dozens of belts if we count every belt holder as a champion we would never have an undisputed champion at any division boxing only recognize WBC WBA IBF and WBO ad real world titles
              I stand corrected.

              Yes, there is too many belts, and they all have lost credibility.

              I just don’t see the point in giving manny credit for beating a paper champ like David diaz, but then discrediting his wins over Barrera and hatton, who were both the clear lineal champs, ring champs, and #1 fighters in those divisions. Both fighters were stripped of titles due to politics and not ring results.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by McNulty View Post
                The OP has said it 30 dozen x. WBA,WBC,WBO, IBF.

                Reading the posts in this thread is like watching Groundhog Day on loop.

                via GIPHY

                Ok, how are those credible?

                Who were the champs that manny should have fought instead to become a world champion at 126 and 140?

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                • #38
                  the oldest set of alphabets are the ones that are considered legit. a real boxing fan wouldnt besmirch them just to make these newer, less recognizable orgs seem ''more'' credible !!!!!!

                  sry but thats some dumb fncking ''logic'' right there.

                  nba, ibo, doe

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                    Barrera had beaten both naz and morales to become the legit real world champ at feather, but was stripped for not paying sanctioning fees in later defenses

                    Hatton had won the ibo title, then tzysu’s super titles, went up to welter for a fight with collazo, came back down and beat urango for ibf title, but then was stripped for fighting manny instead of mandatory

                    Both were considered ring champs, and all major media at the times had them as the #1 guys in the division.


                    It’s absurd to not give credit to manny for those wins, especially the Barrera win
                    I agree with you.

                    More of a loophole to discredit as they technically didn't have ABC titles.

                    Both were Lineal Champions.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                      And I clearly said in my original post- ring titles

                      Now once again

                      Who was the #1 guy at 126 and at 140?

                      Who should have manny fought instead of Barrera and hatton?


                      Who beat Barrera and hatton for their belts?
                      he will never answer it.

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