I'll explain why Eddie Hearn is full of **** with this contract talk.

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    #21
    Originally posted by Kezzer
    Hearn and Joshua already have verbal agreement on condition of seeing the terms and conditions.
    NOT TRUE. Please show me one interview where Hearn said he'd accept the 50 million if the details were kosher. You can't. All he's said is that it's interesting, not that he'd actually accept.

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      #22
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Wake me up when the fights signed.

      This kind of stuff is so boring.
      This is the best part. The pre fight hype. The fans going back & forth. The **** talking. The actual fight only lasts 36 mins or less. This goes on for months

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        #23
        Makes sense. Why sign a contract if someone can get injured 1 week before the fight and have a huge judicial problem? Hearn has nowhere to go besides his fanboy arms

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          #24
          Hearn been exposed more and more since he came to America.

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            #25
            Good point. I still don't get why they can't meet before agreeing to the offer though. What's the harm?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              Kenny Porter explains how boxing contracts work. You don't receive a contract until the day before or the day of the fight.


              You sign a bout agreement agreeing to the fight and you work in the details of the contract.
              They aren't even asking Hearn to do that. They're asking for a verbal agreement. Even if AJ did sign a bout agreement that still doesn't mean he has to go thru with the fight. Just like Jessie Vargas signed his bout agreement with Top Rank to fight Brook but Brook never signed his and ended up fighting GGG


              A contract is fluid and details of the contract can change all the way up to the day of the fight. When fighters miss weight the contract is changed. Floyd changed the contract to pay Maidana not to wear gloves approved by the commission.
              This is without a doubt the most ******ed thing I've ever read on this website, and thats saying ALOT.

              Fighters dont sign contracts until fight week????? LOL, yeah, that would be a GREAT system. Jeez........

              This is why novices should not speak about things they know nothing about.

              First off, A bout contract is signed as soon as the fight terms are agreed to. The contract is written up by the lead promoter, and sent to the other fighters team for immediate signature. The idea that a lead promoter would wait until fight week for a signed contract is beyond ******ed.

              The contracts that get signed during fight week are only the specific bout contracts that the particular state the fight is being held in require. Those forms typically only stipulate rounds, weight, and money. The states have no interest in things like options on next fights, who walks first, rematch language, merchandise splits, library rights, whose banners go on the light grid, and all the other terms that the ACTUAL bout contract stipulate.

              Secondly, a contract is NOT fluid. It is absolute. Details of a contract CANNOT change. Sure, a new contract can be drafted and the existing one voided if all parties agree, but the initial contract is certainly not "fluid".

              Floyd did not "change" the contract, he simply offered Maidana money to sign a new one. Had Maidana refused, the initial contract would have still stood.


              And lastly, nobody signs a contract and "works in the details later". That is just laughable. One might sign a letter of intent or something similar, but only a complete ****** would sign a contract without every single detail already agreed to.

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                #27
                Who needs to explain why any boxing promoter is full of ****? They're boxing promoters...literally a breed that exists solely from exploiting the less fortunate.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by OnePunch
                  This is without a doubt the most ******ed thing I've ever read on this website, and thats saying ALOT.

                  Fighters dont sign contracts until fight week????? LOL, yeah, that would be a GREAT system. Jeez........

                  This is why novices should not speak about things they know nothing about.

                  First off, A bout contract is signed as soon as the fight terms are agreed to. The contract is written up by the lead promoter, and sent to the other fighters team for immediate signature. The idea that a lead promoter would wait until fight week for a signed contract is beyond ******ed.

                  The contracts that get signed during fight week are only the specific bout contracts that the particular state the fight is being held in require. Those forms typically only stipulate rounds, weight, and money. The states have no interest in things like options on next fights, who walks first, rematch language, merchandise splits, library rights, whose banners go on the light grid, and all the other terms that the ACTUAL bout contract stipulate.

                  Secondly, a contract is NOT fluid. It is absolute. Details of a contract CANNOT change. Sure, a new contract can be drafted and the existing one voided if all parties agree, but the initial contract is certainly not "fluid".

                  Floyd did not "change" the contract, he simply offered Maidana money to sign a new one. Had Maidana refused, the initial contract would have still stood.


                  And lastly, nobody signs a contract and "works in the details later". That is just laughable. One might sign a letter of intent or something similar, but only a complete ****** would sign a contract without every single detail already agreed to.
                  Danny Garcia's father said the same thing. You want me to find that video? Maybe its different for small hall promoters like yourself who have never made a dime promoting fights. This is the big time.

                  You said contracts arent fluid but in the next sentence you said they can be changed and voided. So which is it?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    This is the best part. The pre fight hype. The fans going back & forth. The **** talking. The actual fight only lasts 36 mins or less. This goes on for months
                    It ain't the best part. This is that Maury Povich bs part. And I get why people like it & I'm not gonna act like I'm above going into it over some of this wild sh^t that gets said, but the best part is the f#cking fight.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                      Danny Garcia's father said the same thing. You want me to find that video? Maybe its different for small hall promoters like yourself who have never made a dime promoting fights. This is the big time.

                      You said contracts arent fluid but in the next sentence you said they can be changed and voided. So which is it?

                      you can take your little cheap shots, but I have actually promoted shows on ESPN2, Showtime, HBO, and HBO PPV. You on the other hand, read twitter feeds. Im not sure you really want to be comparing resumes with me.

                      I know the English language can be tricky sometimes, but try to follow along. ONE SIDE of a contract cannot simply "make changes" as they see fit. A contract is NOT "fluid". Thats the whole point of a CONTRACT. It binds the parties to a specific set of terms. If the parties agree to a new deal however, the contract can be voided and a new one executed.

                      As for Garcia and Porter, I suspect Haymon has power of attorney over them and thus their signatures are not required up front for in-house fights. But that is not what we were talking about. We were talking about a situation where the fighter is expected to sign a contract with HIS OPPONENTS PROMOTER, without all the details already stipulated to.

                      No fighter in their right mind would ever do that. EVER.
                      Last edited by OnePunch; 04-28-2018, 10:15 PM.

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