Comments Thread For: Hearn To Team Wilder: Is a Contract & Meeting Too Much To Ask?

[Curt Henning]

attn eddie

there is no final contract to sign because you have to agree in principle for 50 mil and letting wilder choose the venue before you can finalize the contract details with wilders people. you will be allowed to sit down and partake in talks to finalize the deal once you agree to the two major points already outlined

its that simple

sincerely,

normal people


but you wont do that...you just keep talking in circles and questioning where a billion dollar man can come up with 50 mil because you are scared to death and got your card pulled in front of the world....stop being such a pathetic twat and man up and let your boy get 50 mil to get knocked out in vegas

[Ake-Dawg]

"hey man i know you made floyd a billion in career earnings...but i need to see where u got that 50 mil man i dont believe you"

eddie hearn

Hell Floyd could be the financier!

[Curt Henning]

Hell Floyd could be the financier!

people dont realize that floyd probably hasnt even seen a dime from the pac fight yet....he takes monthly checks of around 3 mil instead of taking lump sums.....hes probably still getting checks for fights before pac....floyd still has ALOT of money...he just doesnt have it in his hands all at once

hearn is scared to death...he cant believe they have 50 mil for AJ but best believe they do....to al and wilders people even if they somehow lost 10 mil on doing AJ/Wilder it might be worth it to them...especially if wilder wins they will make that back in the long run...its prob worth 10 mil loss to them just to make hearn cower the way he is in public now

[Holler]

attn eddie

there is no final contract to sign because you have to agree in principle for 50 mil and letting wilder choose the venue before you can finalize the contract details with wilders people. you will be allowed to sit down and partake in talks to finalize the deal once you agree to the two major points already outlined

He can't Curt, he literally cannot agree in the way you suggest without access to further info.

The solution is for all parties to meet and thrash this out. Creating artificial pre-conditions to be satisfied before that happens is not the way to get the fight signed.

[Curt Henning]

He can't Curt, he literally cannot agree in the way you suggest without access to further info.

The solution is for all parties to meet and thrash this out. Creating artificial pre-conditions to be satisfied before that happens is not the way to get the fight signed.

yes he can...he can agree to the 50 mil guarantee and letting wilder pick the venue

THEN both sides can sit down(they WILL sit down) and finalize all the rest of the details

finkel isnt asking hearn to agree to bunch of things that hearn cant see...hes saying "agree to 50mil and wilder picking venue then we can sit down and finalize the rest of it together"

but hearn wont even agree to that

[Ake-Dawg]

People (I think you yourself from memory) have repeatedly said

"Wilder isn't saying that they want Hearn to accept the offer, they just say that unless he agrees in theory to the money that they won't meet"

they say this, in my opinion, because they know the basic common sense principle that you don't accept financial/legal liability for something until you know what it is you are buying.

From that standpoint, as I have written before, Hearn has already accepted the money in principle by saying "we're interested let's have a meeting"

If you want him to give a hard acceptance of an offer of $50m then you're getting back into the territory of accepting an price without knowing what it is that you're buying. As I've written as well, no legal adviser would EVER allow Hearn to be seen to accept such a deal as he would be liable for breach of contract.

So basically, you can't ask him to make a firm acceptance because there are immediate legal difficulties (would you honestly accept a deal if you weren't shown a contract?).
On the other hand, if you argue that he isn't being asked to agree to a binding contract but has to agree in principle, he has already done this.

There's not really a way to argue out of it in my opinion. This (totally meaningless) round of the PR battle goes to Hearn in my opinion. Thousands of people would disagree, thousands of people would agree; but those are my reasons

So basically he didnt say what you said, so you made up a false quote from me so you can argue against that. Great.

Hearn is the girl who wants to know all the details of the date before she agrees to go on a date. Btw, you are right, he is winning the PR battle because his whole point is to convince folks like you that he isn't trying to kick the can on this fight or that he is flat out concerned about not being in control of every detail of an AJ fight.

[Redgloveman]

finkel and haymon dont need to be questioned

they say they have it...and they say "agree to take 50 mil"...and all hearn does is talk in circles and say "i dont believe its real and im so concerned for wilder"...instead of saying "thats great we will take that now lets iron out the details"

but he dont say that does he....he keeps questioning it and pretending to be concerned

you dont need to question al's money...that in itself is more insulting than calling shelly shirley for weeks and barring wilder from the ring...more insulting than that flat fee offer he thinks he offered wilder

al is a billion dollar man...50 mil isnt nothing for al to get his hands on

but eddie wont say "ok we like that number its great lets finalize this"...not once..not even close

just babbling about "its a stunt..i dont think its real it cant be real....what will wilder get? im concerned he will get shortchanged"

why is eddie balking and stalling? thats the money AJ said he wanted...he should be jumping for joy...but hes not...hes not once said "yeah ok thats the money we want great...lets finalize it"

just more of "show it to me man i dont believe it"

hes shook...its plain to see

They don't need to be questioned?

Well if it's their pride they're concerned about then just ****ing swallow it and show him the money. Showing him the money would b*tch him out far more than just sitting back and saying "trust us" and cancelling a meeting they had planned.

Seriously. Just show him the ****ing money and be done with it if they want the fight next.

Thing is they DON'T want the fight next. Seems to me they want to build the fight some more and make more cash for all parties when this b*ll**** circus translates from the hardcore fans down to the casual fans.

[Curt Henning]

They don't need to be questioned?

Well if it's their pride they're concerned about then just ****ing swallow it and show him the money. Showing him the money would b*tch him out far more than just sitting back and saying "trust us" and cancelling a meeting they had planned.

Seriously. Just show him the ****ing money and be done with it if they want the fight next.

Thing is they DON'T want the fight next. Seems to me they want to build the fight some more and make more cash for all parties when this b*ll**** circus translates from the hardcore fans down to the casual fans.

you dont question al haymon......hes a billion dollar dude...

the thing is...if hearn had been serious and professional the last 6 months they might just show him

instead he insulted finkel many times calling him "shirley"...they barred wilder from the ring in order to help hype the fight.....they made a public offer of a flat fee which boxing journalists called a "joke" ....hearn hasnt been professional about this for one minute....

now he wants professional courtesy? ...and wants al friggin haymon to show him where hes getting 50 mil? al got 500 mil from investors for PBC....he made floyd a billion in career earnings...he doesnt have to show hearn anything....als reputation speaks volumes alone...it dwarfs hearns.......so hearn is out here once again acting unprofessional

[Redgloveman]

So basically he didnt say what you said

Here are his exact words. I don't know if it's the best example but it's the first one I could be bothered to find (taking me about 10 seconds to do it)

"If you have the money, show us it now and we can talk [we're] definitely interested. We want to see if it's real, we want to see the money, we want to see where it is and we'll carry on talking"


Evidently, Hearn is interested in taking things forward; the meeting has been cancelled from the other side.

Don't claim that I'm making things up. I don't want to have to waste my time substantiating things that are obvious just to satisfy belligerent people.

[Holler]

yes he can...he can agree to the 50 mil guarantee and letting wilder pick the venue

THEN both sides can sit down(they WILL sit down) and finalize all the rest of the details

finkel isnt asking hearn to agree to bunch of things that hearn cant see...hes saying "agree to 50mil and wilder picking venue then we can sit down and finalize the rest of it together"

but hearn wont even agree to that

He can't, nothing to do with the amount, but the legal implications that would ensue. He can't commit with so much left unclear.

Finkel is asking him to do something he would never do himself.

The only way the fight is made, which I assume we all want, is for both parties to sit down and negotiate directly rather than via social media and briefings to journalists.