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  • Boxing-1013
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    #141
    Originally posted by Street15
    Okay. The Saunders fight isn't happening. Not every fight gets made. It happens in boxing.

    What movers at 160 is there? Saunders and Monroe. He fought Monroe, a mandatory. But didn't fight Saunders yet. It happens.

    I'm not inside their negotiations. I can't make Saunders fight. I can't make Gennady fight. I can't make anyone fight. I'm just a fan of the game.
    Dude...when did Saunders ever want that fight, until recently?

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      #142
      Originally posted by S7V7N
      Gawd, I really dread coming on here & reading some of the crap that these fk'n ******s spew. Trying to watch the NFL draft!
      Okay...
      Mora...do I really need to defend this? Anyone putting stock to Jacobs for beating him twice? Think it's the other way around & we all view as easy wins. Like WTF?
      Ward? Really? GGG offered him 50/50 at 164 but Ward only wanted 168. Too bad the fight was never made, we all missed out, but to think Golovkin was the reason for it not happening is just plain ignorant.
      Cotto? Everyone knows Cotto was the one to avoid Gennady. He settled for Geale for crying out loud. You know the one that Golovkin posterized?
      BJS? 2 mil offer wasn't enough. BJS was the one to avoid & anyone can look this up. I do agree that GGG should have made the fight last summer, but it was moving towards Canelo & the big payday, how can anyone criticize this?
      OK, onto current events...Should have Golovkin given up 5/5 & Fought BJS or Dev this summer...of course! However, once again it would jeopardize the rematch with Canelo & every one of us would make the same choice. So what's the problem? It's just haters hatin'. Golovkin is supposed to take the mandatory no matter the cost even though Canelo dropped the belt rather than fighting his in GGG? I actually hope he does take on Dev & smokes the crap outta him, but it's not the wise choice.

      Lastly I'll just conclude with GGG fighting the #2 & 3 in the MW division in the last year. He's being criticized for wanting a rematch with the #2 over the #6 in Dev? Come on people. Tell us who Jacobs is fighting? Arias & Sulecki? Canelo fighting Khan, Liam Smith, Chavez & now working towards Spike O'Sullivan? Yet some are thinking GGG is cherry picking? Pure ignorance or ******ity. No idea how some of you people can look at yourself in the mirror, let alone criticize others for being much bigger men than you or your hero's ever will be. Get a fk'n life dude.

      no you don't..... and no you can't

      FACT: Gennady was offered an opportunity to fight a faded ex-champ on HBO

      FACT: a faded ex-champ is the PERFECT opponent for a young up-and-comer who is trying to establish himself on the big stage..... and boxing has ALWAYS worked that way

      FACT: the two most prominent excuses, of the HUGE pile of excuses that they used to avoid that fight..... was, 1) Mora is unknown..... 2) Mora is irrelevant

      so, they refused Mora..... and then ran off to Monaco to fight an utter scrub on free TV :lol:

      dude, the "irrelevant/unknown" excuse only works if you select someone better lol..... the used 2 incorrect/lame excuses to avoid that fight, but then fought a guy MUCH worse in both of those areas

      Mora is a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... just like Lara, and just like Ward..... two other fights that did not happen for the exact same reason

      lean the sport, and stop nut-hugging hype-jobs..... it is clearly fkn obvious that Team Bullshht have fallen WAY short of their claims/promises..... CLEARLY obvious

      explain this for me.....

      the superstar Cotto, should have been the ultimate goal of every fighter from 140-160..... Cotto was Golovkin's best possible payuday

      but..... Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refused to negotiate on weight with the little old faded SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto..... which is the 2nd most bizarre occurrence within boxing that I have witnessed within the last decade

      I cannot believe how little was spoken about that situation, both from the media and from the fans..... totally bizarre..... every other fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for that fight, and yet Golovkin would not so much as lift his little finger to make that fight, totally refusing to drop a single pound to fight the 153lb superstar

      then 6 months later, Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration, stating that he is willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody will step up..... WTF?????

      here is the proof



      explain that to me

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        #143
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx
        A good fight camp is 8 weeks. GG can't take a fight and immediately go back into camp without rest. Not at his age at least.
        Sorry but this isn't a fight. This is a sparring /exhibition match. I'm still looking for which charity the proceeds go to???

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          #144
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          Canelo is not a legacy fight. That's a money fight. Ward woulda been a legacy fight. Kessler, Froch, Kovalev I & II. Those are legacy fights.
          Kessler - very likely could have been DQd
          Froch - nice tight win, (at home) refused lucrative rematch in UK
          Kovalev 1 - lost clearly
          Kovalev 2 - was losing pretty clearly, but doing better. If fight was in another country would have been penalized if not DQd out right

          Some legacy...

          What is your criteria for a legacy fight btw?

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            #145
            Originally posted by Boxing1012
            So if Kov tested positive for PEDs before Kov/Ward 2. You would slam Ward for taking a stay busy fight instead of fighting Beterbiev?

            if he could easily have fought Beterbiev, like Golovkin could easily have fought Derev..... then, absolutely..... who wouldn't, and why not?

            But yea, Ward is a real fighter..... so, that was a silly example

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              #146
              Originally posted by Street15
              It's the IBF's turn. But they allowed for him to keep his belt still. IBF didn't want to enforce a Sergiy fight with 3 weeks left obviously. If you have a problem with that, direct your energy towards Daryl Peoples. I'm just a fan. I don't have the power to make IBF or any sanctioning body to enforce a thing.

              you stated that Golovkin was pulled in every direction lol

              but..... FACT: he got pulled in ONE direction..... ONE !!

              enjoy the Vanes fight

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                #147
                Originally posted by Curtis2
                Let me tell ya'll something...Derenchenko is a tougher fight for GGG than Clenalo would be...50/50 match up!!
                Both are 50/50 with GGG??? Quit being foolish.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Boxing1012
                  The funniest thing about this is all of you guys are big Ward/Mayweather/Wilder fans...and those 3 guys never took a risk in their whole career.

                  Always the home fighter...Ward and Floyd dropping belts to avoid tough matchups/mandatories. Wilder has been one of the most protected fighters I can ever recall. Floyd was great when he was younger but cherry-picked (very well) in his later years. Ward should have like 5 legit losses on his resume.

                  what a fkn idiot

                  Golovkin gets shat on for two reasons

                  1) he is a total fkn pvssy
                  2) his fans are fkn idiots

                  everyone redK that alt-turd for me please lol

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                    #149
                    [QUOTE=aboutfkntime;18714787]no you don't..... and no you can't

                    FACT: Gennady was offered an opportunity to fight a faded ex-champ on HBO

                    FACT: a faded ex-champ is the PERFECT opponent for a young up-and-comer who is trying to establish himself on the big stage..... and boxing has ALWAYS worked that way

                    FACT: the two most prominent excuses, of the HUGE pile of excuses that they used to avoid that fight..... was, 1) Mora is unknown..... 2) Mora is irrelevant

                    so, they refused Mora..... and then ran off to Monaco to fight an utter scrub on free TV :lol:

                    dude, the "irrelevant/unknown" excuse only works if you select someone better lol..... the used 2 incorrect/lame excuses to avoid that fight, but then fought a guy MUCH worse in both of those areas

                    Mora is a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... just like Lara, and just like Ward..... two other fights that did not happen for the exact same reason

                    lean the sport, and stop nut-hugging hype-jobs..... it is clearly fkn obvious that Team Bullshht have fallen WAY short of their claims/promises..... CLEARLY obvious

                    explain this for me.....

                    the superstar Cotto, should have been the ultimate goal of every fighter from 140-160..... Cotto was Golovkin's best possible payuday

                    but..... Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refused to negotiate on weight with the little old faded SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto..... which is the 2nd most bizarre occurrence within boxing that I have witnessed within the last decade

                    I cannot believe how little was spoken about that situation, both from the media and from the fans..... totally bizarre..... every other fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for that fight, and yet Golovkin would not so much as lift his little finger to make that fight, totally refusing to drop a single pound to fight the 153lb superstar

                    then 6 months later, Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration, stating that he is willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody will step up..... WTF?????

                    Does everyone see what this guy is saying^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                    We should collectively revoke posting privileges for a month at least, until he is rehabilitated.

                    Mora is a tough fight/spoiler!!!!!!! GGG ducked Mora!!!! Lol you have lost your mind man

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
                      Universally recognized as best MW and top 3 p4p ....don't think GGG should give a crap about belts at this point in career.
                      And yet a P4P Top 3 chooses a guy in a 2 year retirement??? And has 3 losses out of his last 6???

                      Glad you don't give a *** about your GOD.

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