I expected VADA to be involved in Canelo's hair testing.

[bigdunny1]

Oh Maxi pad just accept your L you flip flopping clown lol

This is embarrassing even by your standards.

[Larry the boss]

Over VADA? what does that mean?

I won't discuss with ignorant ****ers that were lucky to finish high school.

you do realize he is associated and helped form VADA right?? see all you do is name call when you get checked...Its really is sad

[travestyny]

Why would I trust the NSAC? They did the best they could to give Canelo a pass until everyone in the boxing community started calling them for corruption and they had to suspend Canelo.

1. The hair could have been from someone else.
2. Even if it was Canelo's hair, seems like I was wrong on the hair testing being more accurate. The study I had quoted was based upon bodybuilders with long term and high drugs use.
3. Why didn't they announce that they were performing the test? why do it on the shadows and accounce the results one month later?
4. Even if the hair testing is negative, it doesn't mean Canelo didn't have Clenbuterol on his system. Which he had.

I haven't been following this because to me it's already over......but wait a second.


You're saying you made a thread saying that hair testing is needed...and now that he passed, you are saying that hair testing is worthless?


You have to admit that comes across as you squirming to make sure your agenda is met. You should have just left this alone.

[Larry the boss]

No sense arguing with people who actually believe Canelo is "innocent."

It's been proven hair tests don't mean shyte. I too, didn't think Canelo would take one, but apparently it doesn't really matter either way as:

1.) It was taken a month and a half AFTER he tested positive
2.) Hair tests are inaccurate hair color notwithstanding
3.) Hair color variation renders them even MORE inaccurate
4.) Simple hair products can inhibit any sort of findings; hmmm hasn't Canelo's hair looked a little more auburn or brown at times lately? IDK..
5.) He still had clenbuterol in his system the first time he was drug tested so early into his training camp.

I never said he was innocent, but Maxi is just making himself look like a fool

[DuckAdonis]

Fact is Canelo is suspended

He wouldnt be suspended if he was innocent.


And why didnt we hear before that Canelo had his hair tested ? Why suddenly now ? Why didnt they do it before or announce that Canelo would be participating in these tests before suspending him to prove his innocence....why didnt they wait for the results of the hair tests before suspending him?

Too many questions...not enough answers...shady stuff

[Boxing42]

Ggg Stans being conspiracy theorists again because it’s convenient

[nacho daddy]

canelo to NADA.... wheres the beef

[Cheek busting]

I never said he was innocent, but Maxiis just making himself look like a fool

That's what's up - you do seem to always be pretty sensible on most issues.

I mean, Maxi should have confirmed exactly how dodgy hair tests really are before posting about them - but I can't really blame him for not doing so.

I have say, though, this is great optics for Canelo, as the public at large is generally pretty lazy and doesn't read much further than three to five word titles - so all they'll see is "hair tests proves Canelo clean." or something.

[Cheek busting]

Ggg Stans being conspiracy theorists again because it’s convenient

Conspiracy Theorist?

Well, I'm not a GGG stan, as I criticize GGG all the time.

This has nothing to do with GGG< doe..

This has to do with Canelo. And this simply doesn't convince me Canelo did not intentionally try to ingest Clenbuterol to get a competitive advantage.



There has been a push in some quarters to use the “hair test” in order to convict or clear Canelo. To hear it told, this hair test is the answer to every question. In reality, hair testing for clenbuterol isn’t used for a reason; it’s incredibly unreliable.

The amount of clenbuterol that shows up in hair varies massively depending on factors like hair color. One study gave a group of people the same amount of clenbuterol. One participant, a 27-year-old female, showed 23 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair afterwards. Another participant, also a 27-year-old female, showed 161 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair. They both took the exact same amount, but one had seven times as much in her sample. The suggested reason for this discrepancy? The women had different hair color. This hair color discrepancy was supported by the other data in the study.

That might sound ridiculous, but other studies have found the same thing.

Another study, with more participants, found that even among subjects with similar hair color, the variation is still large. Despite every subject having hair listed as “brown” or “dark brown”, this study also found significant variation:

The lowest detected amount of clenbuterol in the first segment of hair was 0.43 pg/ng, the largest amount was 4.76 pg/ng. Both of these subjects had hair classed as “brown,” and both took the same amount of clenbuterol in the same way. That’s a difference of an entire order of magnitude. A similar issue was found in the second segments, which ranged from a detected amount of 0.00 pg/ng to 0.86 pg/ng.

Tests that have results varying by so much even under a controlled conditions are not reliable tests. The idea that they would somehow give us the information we need to determine if Canelo accidentally or deliberately ingested clenbuterol is ridiculous.


see - under controlled conditions they ingested the exact same amount and were tested at the same time - one showed .8, and the other showed NOTHING. ZERO. ZILCH.

[Larry the boss]

That's what's up - you do seem to always be pretty sensible on most issues.

I mean, Maxi should have confirmed exactly how dodgy hair tests really are before posting about them - but I can't really blame him for not doing so.

I have say, though, this is great optics for Canelo, as the public at large is generally pretty lazy and doesn't read much further than three to five word titles - so all they'll see is "hair tests proves Canelo clean." or something.

I literally dont give 1 **** about rather he is innocent or not...I am just laughing at the ones exposing their biased on the issue on both sides..It is hilarious when you dont have a dog in the fight