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  • Reverb
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    #311
    Originally posted by McNulty
    Very cute you resorting to a conspiracy theory. Info Wars koolaids cuckskeet.

    Finkel said they will sit down, didn't you read the dang quote?
    Conspiracy theory? Name calling? Jeez dude, you're plunging crazy levels. Have a lovely day.

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      #312
      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
      Higgins and Hearn communicated via phone regularly. They both wanted the fight and there was total transparency.
      But Hearn kept insisting on meeting and Duco kept refusing until there was a framework for the money that both sides were comfortable with, if other details ended up being worked out satisfactorily.

      This happens in negotiating all the time. One side wants to be evasive about the money so they can try to squeeze out a little more at the end and the other side says wait a minute, until we agree on money, everything else is a waste of time.

      So for others to suggest this has never happened before, when it literally happens all the time, is ridiculous.

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      • EnglishOxide
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        #313
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        But Hearn kept insisting on meeting and Duco kept refusing until there was a framework for the money that both sides were comfortable with, if other details ended up being worked out satisfactorily.

        So how are details going to be worked out if Team Wilder are setting 24hr deadlines and cancelling meetings?

        All Hearn wants to do before agreeing to the money is whether it will be upfront in escrow, or whether it will be generated depending on Joshua's image and signature.

        Hearn manages Joshua's career so he needs to know these things.

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        • Oshio
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          #314
          If it is not a PR stunt they should just agree to meet up let's have the fight. What is Al and Finkel smoking with that Alabama fraud?

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            #315
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            But AJ doesn't have the legal right to accept the offer. Hearn has an exclusive promotional agreement and AJ saying yes means nothing if Hearn says no. They have to negotiate with Hearn for the right to secure AJ's services.

            So before they meet with Hearn, they just want to confirm that there is an agreement in principle on the financial element, obviously pending that the other details end up being worked out to mutual satisfaction.
            Trust me am never ever going to agree with you or anyone else on this point of not meeting and sitting down to talk about a 50m dollar deal. If that’s the way they agree to deal over there then more power to you guys over there.

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              #316
              Originally posted by EnglishOxide
              So how are details going to be worked out if Team Wilder are setting 24hr deadlines and cancelling meetings?

              All Hearn wants to do before agreeing to the money is whether it will be upfront in escrow, or whether it will be generated depending on Joshua's image and signature.

              Hearn manages Joshua's career so he needs to know these things.
              hearn's flat fee offer had a similar deadline, no contract attached, etc. were you complaining then? wilder did the same thing hearn did, except wilder made a stronger offer. but any mind games involved are the same mind games hearn used with his offer.

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                #317
                Originally posted by Ray*
                Trust me am never ever going to agree with you or anyone else on this point of not meeting and sitting down to talk about a 50m dollar deal. If that’s the way they agree to deal over there then more power to you guys over there.
                ray, im not expecting you to understand why things are done this way. im just saying things are often done this way.

                i offer you a million for your house. if you say, yes i would accept a million under certain circumstances, then we meet to hammer out those details.

                if you say you wont accept a million under any circumstance, there's no reason to meet.

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                • EnglishOxide
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                  #318
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  hearn's flat fee offer had a similar deadline, no contract attached, etc. were you complaining then? wilder did the same thing hearn did, except wilder made a stronger offer. but any mind games involved are the same mind games hearn used with his offer.

                  Don't answer a question with a question. The differences in the two offers are clear.

                  1. There was no 24hr deadline or take it or leave from Hearn. There was a 10 day expiry on the deal. Wilders people say you have 24hrs.

                  2. Wilder never even responded to the offer, of course no contract was sent. Hearn responded to Wilders offer on the same day asking for details.

                  3. Joshua generates enough money to pay Wilder a 12.5m fee. Wilder doesn't generate enough to pay Joshua 50m hence why Matchroom need to see the numbers more than Wilder would IF HE HAD REQUESTED.

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                    #319
                    Originally posted by Reverb
                    Conspiracy theory? Name calling? Jeez dude, you're plunging crazy levels. Have a lovely day.
                    On the positive side we've all learned a new word.

                    Cuckskeet.
                    I can't wait for a chance to slip that into my day to day conversations. It pays to increase your word power.

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                      #320
                      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
                      Don't answer a question with a question. The differences in the two offers are clear.

                      1. There was no 24hr deadline or take it or leave from Hearn. There was a 10 day expiry on the deal. Wilders people say you have 24hrs.

                      2. Wilder never even responded to the offer, of course no contract was sent. Hearn responded to Wilders offer on the same day asking for details.

                      3. Joshua generates enough money to pay Wilder a 12.5m fee. Wilder doesn't generate enough to pay Joshua 50m hence why Matchroom need to see the numbers more than Wilder would IF HE HAD REQUESTED.
                      A good list but we could add:

                      4. Hearn's offer came from his own email address.

                      5. Hearns' offer was confidential until leaked by the other side.

                      6. Hearns' offer wasn't accompanied by a Twitter video from AJ

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