Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Must Provide Proof of Funds, A Proper Contract

[yammy25]

******. Wilder’s manager has put together the four biggest fights in boxing history.

Did any of those four fights consist of both fighters who have poor US market reach in the PPV market?

Im pretty sure those four fights consisted of fighters with proven PPV sales in their own rights and an element of market penetration.


Wilders never sold a single PPV, AJ has barely any US profile.

Each one of those four biggest fights in boxing history paid for themselves due to the fighters and their drawing ability in the wider market. Neither os these two have worldwide PPV appeal, never mind America on its own.

[IMDAZED]

Did any of those four fights consist of both fighters who have poor US market reach in the PPV market?

Im pretty sure those four fights consisted of fighters with proven PPV sales in their own rights and an element of market penetration.


Wilders never sold a single PPV, AJ has barely any US profile.

Each one of those four biggest fights in boxing history paid for themselves due to the fighters and their drawing ability in the wider market. Neither os these two have worldwide PPV appeal, never mind America on its own.

So the people who put it together and look at those kind of forecasts are predicting a fight where Joshua can make $50m + and Wilder can make $20m plus. But they should defer to yammy25.

[PsychoPat]

Knowing what wilders like he'll dig up old dirty bastard get him and kelis to phone hearn. "hey Eddie, baby i got ya money don't ya worry"

[yammy25]

So the people who put it together and look at those kind of forecasts are predicting a fight where Joshua can make $50m + and Wilder can make $20m plus. But they should defer to yammy25.

You dont need to be a statistical analyst or market researcher to see there is no empirical data that shows anything resembling what US PPV buys will be for this event..

the people who put it together.. have no forecasts to look at in this case do they.

The paltry numbers AJ puts in on Showtime afternoons for his fights? The average 1 million that wilder pulls in for his fight?

even if you took both fighters viewers and said they were all individual people, you would then have to translate over 50% of that viewer number buying a PPV of them both in the US. that isnt going to happen.

Im not saying the 50 million hasnt been sourced, im saying hearn is within his right to challenge its source. Im also stating that the fight doesnt do anywhere close to 1000,000 buys in the USA.

[IMDAZED]

You dont need to be a statistical analyst or market researcher to see there is no empirical data that shows anything resembling what US PPV buys will be for this event..

the people who put it together.. have no forecasts to look at in this case do they.

The paltry numbers AJ puts in on Showtime afternoons for his fights? The average 1 million that wilder pulls in for his fight?

even if you took both fighters viewers and said they were all individual people, you would then have to translate over 50% of that viewer number buying a PPV of them both in the US. that isnt going to happen.

Im not saying the 50 million hasnt been sourced, im saying hearn is within his right to challenge its source. Im also stating that the fight doesnt do anywhere close to 1000,000 buys in the USA.

You’re right, yammy. They wouldn’t be able to forecast that. I mean, they don’t do that for a living or anything.

[thabanga510]

Hearn is trying to figure out who is bank rolling the deal and at the same time he is trying to get investors.

[lefthooklead]

How ****** ?

He said if the offer is for real he will take it serious

It's as real as the offer he sent Deontay the other day. Just a better offer that puts big pressure on him.

He doesn't want the fight now, that's blatant. All the Whyte Wilder chat and the Povetkin mandatory stuff along with the Jarrell Miller stuff makes it plain to see.

You don't need proof of funds to make an offer. Did Hearn send it when he made the offer initially?

[yammy25]

You’re right, yammy. They wouldn’t be able to forecast that. I mean, they don’t do that for a living or anything.

You need reference points and historical similarity to make a forecast. You need to read trends and see fluctuation.

Is this fight getting worldwide attention to the scale of say... lennox vs tyson, or may/pac or even may/mac? no...it isnt.. is it on your front pages? Is it on the back pages of your newspapers? because it isnt on ours and our fighters the A-side supposedly in all of this.

Rather than comment on my abilities to read markets .. regardless of industry, as you have no knowledge of what i do for a living. why dont you back up your argument with showing something of validity that suggests this fight based on both fighters and their respective market reach, does 1000,000 US TV buys.

[Jsmooth9876]

"We need proof of funds" translates to "Wait a minute. This is starting to get real. Do we really want this?"

i.e. EVERY fighter being offered money expects "proof of funds"...that's the best Eddie could come up with on the fly. Pathetic.

Read what you wrote, then think about someone offering you 50 million dollars then ask yourself if you'd want proof they could provide you that money.

Then come back here and try not to sound as dumb as you did in your previous post.

[jonnyc420]

Pure facts from Eddie. The 10 morons who worship Wilder will claim otherwise. Yet these clowns never sniffed a boxing contract, but are suddenly arm chair experts on the matter lol.