Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Final Eliminator Ordered

[alexjust]

I hope Whyte wins and Eddie squeezes Wilder for money by offering to Wilder Wilder's favorite magic number:$2m instead of already offered $5m. It will be funny.

And if anyone noticed, other than obviously AJ and Haye, Whyte has become the most attractive British heavyweight who can sell out O2.

[Sid-Knee]

Just go away. no one agrees with anything you say.

Why would the top guy in the division be ducking C grade, domestic level, Whyte ?

You might as well say AJ is ducking Charles Martin rematch.

Haha, What I said was the truth. The guy I was responding to made a complete fool of themselves, so it's no surprise you agree with him.

Whyte is better than Brezeale, that's why. Plus the money is in the Whyte fight. Common sense really. But you do seem to be lacking in that area.

It's not the same as an AJ/Martin rematch at all. There is no money in a Martin rematch. Plus it's like Joshua taking on a weaker foe than Martin but proclaiming he's the best like Wilder is.

What was it that Wilder said? Oh that's right, I don't fight peasants. But he's fighting someone weaker than Whyte and doing so for peanuts.

Just leave the forum, yeah. That way we won't have to put up with your bitter rants.

[Straightener]

Other than the support for Alvarez, which I found out of line, I haven't seen anything too crazy out of the WBC. I like that they pressured Thurman to vacate. I like that they ordered an eliminator for the mando spot at heavyweight. I like that they haven't ordered mando at middleweight to give GGG an opportunity to make what was supposed to be Avarez I and II. I don't think they are perfect, but definitely better than they were when they protected the Mayweather money at all costs.

Yeh the whole canelo situation I was getting at . Sell morals for the highest bidder

You don’t smell a rat about wbc belt at Heavy being the pbc circle jerk ? I mean a guy breezeele that has beat that warrants him as Mando ? Then Ortiz getting a straight shot at a title eliminator after being knocked out by the champ in his previous fight

[Sid-Knee]

You want to call a champ a duck for trying to unify? It's not a duck if you're trying to fight the better fighter instead. Whyte is C level.

Joshua situation is not quite a duck but is close. Can't say you wanna be undisputed then have your promoter say that instead of taking the Wilder risk you could just fight others for big money.

But Wilder isn't trying to unify is he? He's priced himself out of a fight with AJ. So he can fight anther decent fighter instead but he's gone for the weaker Brezeale for much less money.

If Whyte is C level, then Brezeale is D level. But Wilder doesn't fight peasants does he? Hhahaha his whole career is filled with peasants.

Wilder was lucky to survive last time against Ortiz so he's playing it safety first to try and keep hold of his bauble. He's a joke.

Joshua is the money man in the division, Wilder needs to recognise that. Joshua brings 95% of the money to the table while Wilder just brings a belt. So Joshua should get most of the money. Why would he only take a little bit more than he usually gets but Wilder gets to take home a payday many times his biggest one to date? It doesn't stand up to reason.

Wilder is a ****ing punk. End of story. He refuses to fight Joshua unless he gets a big retirement cheque, yet he claims he wants to be undisputed. Don't make me laugh. The fight is there for him for more money than he deserves but is still turning it down. **** him. Let him fight the likes of Brezeale while shouting his mouth off, it's all bull**** anyway. But fools like you will buy it because you can't bare to see the American look like a coward so will turn around and accuse Joshua of being the problem instead.

[Ake-Dawg]

Yeh the whole canelo situation I was getting at . Sell morals for the highest bidder

You don’t smell a rat about wbc belt at Heavy being the pbc circle jerk ? I mean a guy breezeele that has beat that warrants him as Mando ? Then Ortiz getting a straight shot at a title eliminator after being knocked out by the champ in his previous fight

If Wilder was a big money-maker like Alvarez or Joshua, I could see your point. I just don't know how this benefits Wilder or the WBC.

TBH, the only way the WBC looks su****ious in this move is if you subscribe to the Wilder is avoiding Whyte so they are sending Ortiz to get rid of him. That's the same angle Wilder fans used with respect to Whyte and Joshua. Either both are legit conclusions or neither are.

[Straightener]

If Wilder was a big money-maker like Alvarez or Joshua, I could see your point. I just don't know how this benefits Wilder or the WBC.

TBH, the only way the WBC looks su****ious in this move is if you subscribe to the Wilder is avoiding Whyte so they are sending Ortiz to get rid of him. That's the same angle Wilder fans used with respect to Whyte and Joshua. Either both are legit conclusions or neither are.

Fair point

Someone must be backing Ortiz hard to get a straight shot to the front of the line again

Like you said probably to keep whyte away from him which is odd because that is a money fight and one he would be major odds on to win

Looks to me they are keeping him safe until he cashes out with aj

[Ake-Dawg]

Fair point

Someone must be backing Ortiz hard to get a straight shot to the front of the line again

Like you said probably to keep whyte away from him which is odd because that is a money fight and one he would be major odds on to win

Looks to me they are keeping him safe until he cashes out with aj

For the record, I'm not saying that they are keeping Whyte away from him. I'm saying some conclude that. Wilder fought a mando in Nov of last year. It will be a while before they order him to fight the #1 contender. Whyte was going to have to wait no matter what. I don't like stacking assumptions just to make an assumption. Right now, NO ONE knows if the #2 and #3 rated fighters in the WBC were offered the elimination fight.

[Ake-Dawg]

Fair point

Someone must be backing Ortiz hard to get a straight shot to the front of the line again

Like you said probably to keep whyte away from him which is odd because that is a money fight and one he would be major odds on to win

Looks to me they are keeping him safe until he cashes out with aj

At some point in time folks have to stop assuming these conspiracy theories are true in order to justify their desire to call a fighter a duck. I mean if that's all they get out of boxing then...smh.

[N/A]

How the hell can Brezeale be the mandatory?

He signed to fight Stiverne in a final eliminator on November 4. When Ortiz failed a drug test, and Stiverne was elevated to the main event, Breazeale, through no fault of his own, had lost the opponent for the final eliminator.

The WBC went through the rankings to find a replacement, and Breazeale fought the first guy to say yes. That is why Breazeale's fight was a final eliminator.

[Ake-Dawg]

But Wilder isn't trying to unify is he? He's priced himself out of a fight with AJ. So he can fight anther decent fighter instead but he's gone for the weaker Brezeale for much less money.

If Whyte is C level, then Brezeale is D level. But Wilder doesn't fight peasants does he? Hhahaha his whole career is filled with peasants.

Wilder was lucky to survive last time against Ortiz so he's playing it safety first to try and keep hold of his bauble. He's a joke.

Joshua is the money man in the division, Wilder needs to recognise that. Joshua brings 95% of the money to the table while Wilder just brings a belt. So Joshua should get most of the money. Why would he only take a little bit more than he usually gets but Wilder gets to take home a payday many times his biggest one to date? It doesn't stand up to reason.

Wilder is a ****ing punk. End of story. He refuses to fight Joshua unless he gets a big retirement cheque, yet he claims he wants to be undisputed. Don't make me laugh. The fight is there for him for more money than he deserves but is still turning it down. **** him. Let him fight the likes of Brezeale while shouting his mouth off, it's all bull**** anyway. But fools like you will buy it because you can't bare to see the American look like a coward so will turn around and accuse Joshua of being the problem instead.

If you have to assume that a differing opinion is based on some sort of bias just to argue against it, then go right ahead. Just don't do it with me. Both fighters are seeking to maximize their purses. Its understandable. Each fight could be your last. That's why they negotiate.

The same old rants have grown old. When you can have a discussion about boxing that doesn't involve you having a hissy fit over who you think is ducking, I'll correspond. Otherwise, I bid you adieu.