Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Final Eliminator Ordered

[Illmatic94]

AJ slurpers are now terrified of Ortiz.

He 85 years old doe.. LOL.

You guys hired Whyte as the bodyguard for AJ now the bodyguard is getting cornered by a senile Cuban and he wants none of it.

The AJ Protection Agency is collapsing from within.

Whyte and Breazeale. What separates them skill wise? Nothing. So Wilder facing Breazeale is not different than him facing Whyte.

Difference is the AJ slurpers spent all these months building up Whyte as a monster and a threat and are now scattering in fear from Ortiz.

[Jkp]

Okay... So we can accept Wilder and Joshua as 1&2 in an order to each boxing fans pleasure. Curious as to the rest of your top 5?

Only asking, because we can do this resume thing with everyone right now. There are so few good HW, you can reason out anyone as bad as they had no real challenges. You dislike Whyte. No sweat. You have a problem with Pulev, Ortiz, Povetkin (my order, all ahead of Whyte by whisker hairs) or someone else?

Makes sense to have Pulev, Ortiz, Povetkin.

But I still dont understand why Whyte would be considered top 10? He hasn't fought anyone decent?

He struggled horribly with Chisora/Helenius in his last fights. Those guys are not tricky opponents at all. Its not like he was fighting a hughie fury, the worlds most elusive fighter, running backwards the whole fight. These were guys standing there coming forward to be hit. Or in Helenius case, a guy completely gassed for 8 rounds lying on the ropes not fighting back.

I expect Hughie would beat him easily, as would Takam, Miller, basically any of the guys that have boxing talent. Probably about 5 other guys could beat him too.

The sooner he gets in the ring with a decent opponent the better. So we can get him out of the picture and let better fights happen.

He was exposed against Chisora and Helenius, I thought that would be enough to get him out of the way of the top guys. But I under estimated just how far the UK hype machine can take c grade boxers.

[Redd Foxx]

AJ slurpers are now terrified of Ortiz.

He 85 years old doe.. LOL.

You guys hired Whyte as the bodyguard for AJ now the bodyguard is getting cornered by a senile Cuban and he wants none of it.

The AJ Protection Agency is collapsing from within.

Whyte and Breazeale. What separates them skill wise? Nothing. So Wilder facing Breazeale is not different than him facing Whyte.

Difference is the AJ slurpers spent all these months building up Whyte as a monster and a threat and are now scattering in fear from Ortiz.

PREDICTION: The people who hyped up Whyte and said Wilder was "scared" of him, and who say Ortiz never beat anyone good, will refuse to give Ortiz any credit for the win, even though they're been acting like Whyte's the 2nd coming of Joe Frazier.

[N/A]

That's what I thought. He obviously has some kind of leverage with the WBC. They virtually gave Wilder that title to begin with, then dug Stiverne out of the grave and fed him to Deontay again ..

Wilder worked his way up the rankings like anybody else. Waited for his mandatory shot and dominated the champion.

He won his title like any fighter is supposed to.

[lex_fugitive]

It's not until recently that Wilder wanted a 50/50 split of the money. So how in the hell could AJ have ducked the fight? Unless you think that nobody deserved half of the money?

AJ has straight refused to even negotiate with him. Literally. Parker kept DEMANDING 40%. AJ negotiated with him. Wilder has been wanting AJ for a while, and all AJ says is, "yea, I'd beat Wilder, but I think Miller or Whyte will be my next fight."

It is literally the textbook definition of ducking. There is no sense even arguing about it. Take your head out of your ass and you will see what the rest of the world does. AJ made me a fan with his Wlad fight. His blatant ducking Wilder, and his Kltishcko "I'm a robot" style since Wlad has turned me and a lot of others off. At least the brothers would fight anyone.

[SN!PER]

This throw a BIG wrench into Eddies plans. Whyte stunned Joshua in round 2 of their fight, so if he end up looking bad in his fights, Joshuas hype falls apart. But this aint no handpicked opponent, Ortiz the real deal. Eddie will need to pull every trick in the book to get his man out of this one.

[Sid-Knee]

If you have to assume that a differing opinion is based on some sort of bias just to argue against it, then go right ahead. Just don't do it with me. Both fighters are seeking to maximize their purses. Its understandable. Each fight could be your last. That's why they negotiate.

The same old rants have grown old. When you can have a discussion about boxing that doesn't involve you having a hissy fit over who you think is ducking, I'll correspond. Otherwise, I bid you adieu.

It wasn't a hissy fit. I was just telling it like it is. But people like you are not interested in being rational when discussing the Joshua/Wilder fight so it does tend to grate after a while.

Joshua should take home most of the money. He's the one who brings 95% of it to the table. To try and pretend otherwise and claim Wilder is being short changed is nothing short of preposterous. Wilder can't even sell tickets for crying out loud.

[Sid-Knee]

AJ has straight refused to even negotiate with him. Literally. Parker kept DEMANDING 40%. AJ negotiated with him. Wilder has been wanting AJ for a while, and all AJ says is, "yea, I'd beat Wilder, but I think Miller or Whyte will be my next fight."

It is literally the textbook definition of ducking. There is no sense even arguing about it. Take your head out of your ass and you will see what the rest of the world does. AJ made me a fan with his Wlad fight. His blatant ducking Wilder, and his Kltishcko "I'm a robot" style since Wlad has turned me and a lot of others off. At least the brothers would fight anyone.

Haha, you're deluded. The only side who want to sit down and sort something out is AJ's side. Hearn is the one who's in the states to talk to them, not the other way round. I mean, where is this counter offer?

Wilder wanted AJ but with him getting half the money. So no, the fight wasn't exactly going to happen under those conditions was it? Wilder is fooling you and you fall for it hook line and sinker.

AJ is saying what fighters he'll fight if Wilder isn't willing to get it on. The Heavyweight division doesn't revolve around that scrub. AJ has made it clear he wants to fight Wilder next.

Haven't you found it funny that when AJ has a fight signed Wilder is all over the place saying AJ is ducking him. But now AJ is free and wanting to fight, Wilder doesn't make a peek. Do you not find that funny?

[cameltoe]

You should’ve been around when Foreman demolished Frazier and Norton when Ali couldn’t. You’d all be screaming that Foreman kills Ali lmfao.

Yeah, it’s nothing like that.

[STREET CLEANER]

It'll be fun once Fury is thrown back in there (if he's ever the same) with Joshua and Wilder and some of these other young cats. Povetkin can definitely sneak, but seems like he's been hitting the deck a lot more lately.

I really would like Fury to get in top shape. You can never have enough competition in boxing.