Eddie Hearn's matchmaking...

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • EnglishOxide
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jul 2017
    • 2351
    • 175
    • 77
    • 42,307

    #11
    This is BS. He builds his fighters. It's only because he has so many shows and so many fighters that you think this.

    Bellew v Haye
    Brook v Spence
    Brook v Golovkin
    Campbell v Linares
    Joshua v Klitschko
    Joshua v Parker
    Crolla v Burns
    Whyte v Browne
    Allen v Thomas
    Eggington v Mimoune
    Buglioni v Johnson

    That's just in the last 12/18 months where he has matched his fighters hard, and I'm sure there's some examples I'm forgetting.

    If they don't win it's because they are not good enough, not because he hasn't matched them hard enough in their upbringing. But he has done his job by making them headliners and making them lots of money.

    Comment

    • sore_back
      Up and Comer
      Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
      • Mar 2018
      • 84
      • 3
      • 0
      • 6,309

      #12
      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
      This is BS. He builds his fighters. It's only because he has so many shows and so many fighters that you think this.

      Bellew v Haye
      Brook v Spence
      Brook v Golovkin
      Campbell v Linares
      Joshua v Klitschko
      Joshua v Parker
      Crolla v Burns
      Whyte v Browne
      Allen v Thomas
      Eggington v Mimoune
      Buglioni v Johnson

      That's just in the last 12/18 months where he has matched his fighters hard, and I'm sure there's some examples I'm forgetting.

      If they don't win it's because they are not good enough, not because he hasn't matched them hard enough in their upbringing. But he has done his job by making them headliners and making them lots of money.
      I'm not saying he doesn't put on good fights. Of course he does, he has to because those are usually the ones where he gets paid. The problem is all the cr*ppy fights he uses to build up those fights. e.g every Brook fight (except for Spence/ Golovkin) are against mostly the same style of **** come forward Eastern Europeans who can't box.

      I'm not hating on him, he does have a lot of restrictions on who he can get over here, so that makes it hard. But it's just so boring when the sport is so formulaic and predictable.

      I agree with the bit in bold btw, my point was just that his fighters mostly don't live up to the hype that he manages to create in some people.

      Comment

      • EnglishOxide
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Jul 2017
        • 2351
        • 175
        • 77
        • 42,307

        #13
        Originally posted by sore_back
        I agree with the bit in bold btw, my point was just that his fighters mostly don't live up to the hype that he manages to create in some people.

        I agree with that.

        But I think that's set to change with some of the younger prospects he's got coming through like Kelly, Burnett, Fowler and Buatsi.

        He's getting alot of fighters with big amateur pedigree now.

        Comment

        • sore_back
          Up and Comer
          Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
          • Mar 2018
          • 84
          • 3
          • 0
          • 6,309

          #14
          Originally posted by EnglishOxide
          I agree with that.

          But I think that's set to change with some of the younger prospects he's got coming through like Kelly, Burnett, Fowler and Buatsi.

          He's getting alot of fighters with big amateur pedigree now.
          I think they're good youngsters but that probably means the hype around them is going to stratospheric. For example Kelly's a good prospect, but calling him the next Lomachenko after the fights he's had is pushing things to the extreme.

          Comment

          • EnglishOxide
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Jul 2017
            • 2351
            • 175
            • 77
            • 42,307

            #15
            Originally posted by sore_back
            I think they're good youngsters but that probably means the hype around them is going to stratospheric. For example Kelly's a good prospect, but calling him the next Lomachenko after the fights he's had is pushing things to the extreme.

            I don't recall Eddie Hearn ever calling him that or building him as that.

            That's fan hype. Hype which is also probably justified, the guy is fantastic and at just 6-0 his trainer is demanding top 15 opponents.

            The Lomachenko comparisons are based on similarities in style which you can't really deny.

            Comment

            • sore_back
              Up and Comer
              Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
              • Mar 2018
              • 84
              • 3
              • 0
              • 6,309

              #16
              Originally posted by EnglishOxide
              I don't recall Eddie Hearn ever calling him that or building him as that.

              That's fan hype. Hype which is also probably justified, the guy is fantastic and at just 6-0 his trainer is demanding top 15 opponents.

              The Lomachenko comparisons are based on similarities in style which you can't really deny.
              He called him the "British Lomachenko" which is pretty much the same thing I think.

              I don't agree about his style or talent level being similar to Lomachenko personally, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

              Comment

              • Kezzer
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Dec 2017
                • 3480
                • 116
                • 35
                • 58,969

                #17
                Originally posted by sore_back
                what a c*ck.

                He just uses the same tactic over and over again: pick the easiest stylistic opponent or most overhyped fighter for his fighters to face, so that he can go: "Look how quickly my guy knocked out X!" Of course all promoters do this, but nobody does this as much a Hearn imo.

                He did the same thing with Quigg, Callum Smith, Kell Brook and Crolla, who were all hyped up at some point, and I'm sure there are lots more too.

                Then, when it finally comes time to step up, they get outclassed/ perform way worse than expected, because they're not fighting guys that are tailor made for them.

                And I bet it's going to be the same with Dillian Whyte too, because his win over Browne was basically the same thing imo.

                I hope you're looking forward to this, America!
                Your right, he tried to line up Wilder for Whyte for this season. Unfortunately he is #AndStillNo1BumFighter so didn't take the bait

                Comment

                • sore_back
                  Up and Comer
                  Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 84
                  • 3
                  • 0
                  • 6,309

                  #18
                  Originally posted by Kezzer
                  Your right, he tried to line up Wilder for Whyte for this season. Unfortunately he is #AndStillNo1BumFighter so didn't take the bait
                  Wilder should have fought Whyte imo. But even so, there were better fights out there for Whyte than Browne at the same level e.g. Jarrell Miller but he probably would have been stylistically a tougher fight so they went with Browne.

                  Comment

                  • Madison Boxing
                    Banned
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 35364
                    • 6,455
                    • 3,367
                    • 190,590

                    #19
                    and haymons is so much better? tank and charlo had great opponents didnt they

                    Comment

                    • sore_back
                      Up and Comer
                      Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 84
                      • 3
                      • 0
                      • 6,309

                      #20
                      Originally posted by DramaShow
                      and haymons is so much better? tank and charlo had great opponents didnt they
                      I don't really know what to say to this except yes, their opponents were better.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP