Comments Thread For: WBC Reveal Huge List of Boxers Not Drug Testing With CBP/VADA

[Street15]

If they had intentions to unify you would

My understanding is: they won't have to since the WBC CBP is only for those who are current champs, currently ranked, or something that the WBC mandated.

Each of the following shall be considered or become an Eligible Boxer subject to testing under
the CBP:
1. Any boxer who as of January 1 of each year is a WBC World Champion;
2. Any boxer who as of January 1 of each year is ranked in the top 15 in the WBC
World Ratings or who throughout the year becomes ranked in the top 15 in the
WBC World Ratings;
3. Any boxer who becomes eligible to challenge for a WBC World Championship
bout through a WBC ruling; or
4. Any boxer who does not fall within conditions 1-3 above but who voluntarily
submits to become an Eligible Boxer under these protocols

They don't mention anything about unifications from a WBO or IBF champ.

In your example however, if you're the WBA champ, unifying against a WBC champ, you're already under similar testing protocol.

[Citizen Koba]

My understanding is: they won't have to since the WBC CBP is only for those who are current champs, currently ranked, or something that the WBC mandated.



They don't mention anything about unifications from a WBO or IBF champ.

In your example however, if you're the WBA champ, unifying against a WBC champ, you're already under similar testing protocol.

If you're fighting in a WBC sanctioned title fight (which would automatically include any unifier involving a WBC title) then they would sign you up automatically - or they could refuse to sanction it I suppose, if you were to refuse give 'em your 24/7 contact details. Fortunately all you'd be required to do, assuming you'd signed up to a standard testing protocol as part of your fight contract, would be what you were doing anyway.

1. Voluntary Enrolment (Pre-Competition Testing): Any boxer can enroll to become subject to In-Competition-random testing prior to participating in a WBC-Sanctioning fight. Upon such enrollment, VADA will set up a pre-fight random testing protocol which shall take place before the fight. So, if a fighter who is scheduled to participate in a WBC-sanctioned championship fight does not voluntarily enroll in the CBP Pre-Competition Anti-Doping Testing prior to the fight, he/she will: (a) still be an eligible fighter within the CBP Out-of-Competition testing and could be subject to random testing; and (2) will be subjected to the WBC mandatory testing under the WBC Rules & Regulations as set forth below.

[El Gitano]

Lol they mad that some of the boxers that’s on that list have been taking shots at Canelo so they release the list to take some pressure of Canelo

but Canelo is not enrolled yet the WBC still has him ranked at #2.

[El Gitano]

Observations:

1. Was it a coincidence that the WBC released this list in amidst of the boxing community being in awe at the fact that Canelo wasn't enrolled? I think not.

2. This enrollment program is a good start, but it doesn't hold any merit UNLESS you're planning on or working towards fighting for the WBC title. For ex: You can be listed as #10 in the WBC ranking, but listed as #1 in the WBO - and you're fighting for a WBO title - so you won't care much for the CBP.

3. Is Canelo all of a sudden enrolled now? I noticed his name wasn't there.

Not enrolled but still ranked.

[Street15]

If you're fighting in a WBC sanctioned title fight (which would automatically include any unifier involving a WBC title) then they would sign you up automatically - or they could refuse to sanction it I suppose. Fortunately all you'd be required to do, assuming you'd signed up to a standard testing protocol as part of your fight contract, would be what you were doing anyway.

So in other words, they'll just SAY you are part of their program, even though you aren't participating in the actually VADA CBP testing program.

[Street15]

Not enrolled but still ranked.

Which is ridiculous to remove his name from the list all of a sudden. Who does Sulaiman think he's fooling? SMH

[Street15]

If you're fighting in a WBC sanctioned title fight (which would automatically include any unifier involving a WBC title) then they would sign you up automatically - or they could refuse to sanction it I suppose, if you were to refuse give 'em your 24/7 contact details. Fortunately all you'd be required to do, assuming you'd signed up to a standard testing protocol as part of your fight contract, would be what you were doing anyway.

They wrote it in an ambiguous way to leave room for the possibility of letting "certaing things/fighters" off the hook.

[Citizen Koba]

So in other words, they'll just SAY you are part of their program, even though you aren't participating in the actually VADA CBP testing program.

Pretty much. As I've said previously, the whole thing is a bit slippery. Basically they say it's a 365/24/7 testing program but apparently your standard pre-fight 8 week schedule counts towards the testing criteria, so when they release the lists of tested fighters the vast majority are those who'd be being tested anyway as part of their fight contracts.

I've still got some digging to do, because this shouldn't be the case - in fact, the language of the protocols indicates that pre-fight testing is counted as in-competition' testing but I've already noticed a large preponderance of names on the quarterly lists for 'out of competiton testing' are those of fighters who have fought or are scheduled to fight that quarter.

What it looks like tallies with what some industry insiders have noted (and also with the reports that basically WBC aren't funding VADA for the year round testing), that there's actually very little testing going on apart from what is agreed to, and paid for by the fighters themselves.

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wasn't Vanes Martirosyan talking **** about Canelo earlier?? .

[MDPopescu]

and Canelo isn't on the list because..... why?

... because he was enlisted... that's how they caught him, remember?