Comments Thread For: Hearn: We Won't Let You Play With Our Balls To Overpay Wilder!

[juggernaut666]

are you from UK? I'm from hull are you honestly going to tell me that Joshua isn't scared of fighting wilder? If you are then bro you don't know anything do you!!!

Why is he so eager to fight a fat out of shape inactive fury tomorrow?
Or the old aging inactive WK

Or the small stubby useless parker

Yet when its come to a big strong in his prime fellow heavy weight champ all of a sudden there's a thousand an one reasons why its not happening??? Bro fans like you are killing the sport of boxing!!!! Wake up an start calling a spade a spade for f uck sake!!!!!!!

You could be from Mars it still wouldn't mean you have a clue what your talking about .

Joshua to fight Fury right away ? Wouldnt that be difficult with mandatories and Furys recent signing with Warren which is going to take minimum a year to even prepare for Joshua ?


The only thing i will call here is IDIOT , which would be you . Now delete this alt bc its going to crash snd burn BADLY .

[Redgloveman]

Joshua will be the bookies favourite going into the fight but I really see Wilder beating him late in the fight when Joshua gasses out.

However, I've written here (a while ago now) that if the fight doesn't get made I think it would be Wilder's side more likely to dodge the fight than Joshua's side. I say this because Wilder hasn't really taken opportunities to step up and challenge himself against the top guys. We should have seen him in bigger fights by now. I love watching him fight, but wish he had been in more great fights by now. Personally I think he's been badly advised, I think his managers overestimate the importance of an undefeated record and have been too low-risk. The thing is, they've got an opportunity put all that behind them in one fell swoop by beating Joshua so I wish they were being more pro-active now about making the fight.

Say what you want about Hearn's offer, but I believe Hearn when he says that he's not heard anything back from Wilder's side because Wilder's side haven't said anything to deny this. If I was Wilder, I'd take the $12, beat the brakes off Joshua and rule the division... Put the machismo bulls*t behind them for the split in the first fight and demand the conditions to be reversed in a rematch (which would probably make more money than the first fight anyway). Worst case scenario they lose the fight, $12.5m is still $12.5m and a lot more than Wilder has earned before. Alternatively MAKE A DAMN COUNTER OFFER! Get the negotiations going and demand a % split. It just feels like since the $12.5m offer Wilder's team have said "that's a BS offer" and I've not heard anything since.

The other thing is that when Joshua has been committed to fights Wilder and his team have been far more vocal than when Joshua is actually available (happened with Takam and Parker). We were seeing these articles literally every day before Joshua was fighting Parker, but they've seemed to all dry up and Hearn seems to be talking about the fight more than team Wilder is.

Hearn has more motive to duck than Wilder, no question. I can see that. But I keep wanting to see something about Wilder's side pushing negotiations forward and the days keep ticking by.

As I say, I know that's not gonna be popular, but I'm just saying it as I see it. The desperation that Wilder had to fight AJ just doesn't seem to be there like it was before.

[TheUptownKid]

It’s my understanding that this was the first offer in negotiations. They’re negotiations, they go back and forth. I’m not worried about them finding a middle ground bc neither really has an enticing alternative. Other than maybe Tyson fury

[rickJen]

If side B really wants the fight, he accepts the offer and call the shots in the rematch.
Seems he's really not sure of winning the fight, contrary to what he;s claiming.
I hope he wins so I would see the funniest part happens.
I doubt he can make the same $12.5 mil offer to Jacobs.
I doubt he'll even make $12.5 mil being the A-side in the rematch which presumably takes place in the US.
I could see these defenders of his trying to justify Wilder's offer of $3 mil to AJ in the rematch.
The Cotto/Canelo fight which was far bigger was only worth $20 mil.
Kills me.

[lion33lit]

You have no clue what you are talking about if you believe Jarrell Miller that has been on Shobox like 4 times and Wilder who has been on network TV in decently rated fights, Showtimes biggest numbers are equals.

Now Wilder also gets on ESPN doing interviews, if Miller showed up to ESPN he would get escorted away.

Pretty much anyone that knows anything about boxing in the US knows Wilder, only hard core fans know who Miller is and even then most would only be able to pick him out of a line-up because of his girth


If you think those guys are equal you have no clue what you are talking about. As for PPV Wilder is probably pretty close to being a small time PPV player with a solid opponent (200k or so buys) if they wanted to go that route but that would kind of stunt Wilder growing his name to be more than that. With Joshua he is certainly on PPV.

There is no one better for Joshua to face to make a splash in the US, and if Wilder is such an easy mark knock him out and take the prize.

You hit the nail on the head with the comparisons. Miller is a loudmouth Brooklynite with no serious following - even out here. Can he conjure up some serious fan appeal and be regarded as a serious threat in the game?? Of course he can, just like ANY other young gun in heavies!

Millers style though, has nothing exceptional to it. He comes forward with basic uppercuts and hooks that can eventually wear down a big non-exceptional fighter. Plus, the 300lb Miller has ALREADY been caught using PEDS in 2014, a sure sign that "help" was needed to combat his battle with obesity. He naturally holds 300 plus, and admittedly - he says its next to impossible to get under 300 for fights.

Joshua on the other hand is "gifted." He doesnt "jog" to build his endurance. He's ONLY 220lbs (my exact weight) in a division of monsters that are usually 235 & above. He looks like he can join the NBA as a center, but hits like a mule! He's a strong "disciplined" fighter with obvious flaws, more than likely due to the fact he started boxing at the LATE age of 19. He's always critisized for fighting "nobodies," but wants the BEST the division has to offer in the HUGE MUSCULAR KO King AJ!

He KNOWS he can be paid more adequately & handsomely because past recent championship fights have PROVEN that, He knows very well that he doesnt have to listen to the HATERS who believe he's just not worth much and should just "settle." He already traveled to Russia and England for fights and is willing to do so against the UK KO King! I could go on & on about the gifted phenom since Mike Tyson, and I could also detract from the FAT potential Jeff Lacy wannabe (not saying he can't materialize into something worth talking about).

Jus because people don't know our obscure King in the UK, doesnt mean he's not deserving! This era of poor heavyweights have contributed to his lack of popularity, but his shining ego and COURAGE hardly make him unnoticable to true fans of the sport. His Team could have done a better job of promoting, but thats past tense now. Wilder is the real deal, regardless of those who don't want him to be known.

[Laligalaliga]

You have no clue what you are talking about if you believe Jarrell Miller that has been on Shobox like 4 times and Wilder who has been on network TV in decently rated fights, Showtimes biggest numbers are equals.

Now Wilder also gets on ESPN doing interviews, if Miller showed up to ESPN he would get escorted away.

Pretty much anyone that knows anything about boxing in the US knows Wilder, only hard core fans know who Miller is and even then most would only be able to pick him out of a line-up because of his girth


If you think those guys are equal you have no clue what you are talking about. As for PPV Wilder is probably pretty close to being a small time PPV player with a solid opponent (200k or so buys) if they wanted to go that route but that would kind of stunt Wilder growing his name to be more than that. With Joshua he is certainly on PPV.

There is no one better for Joshua to face to make a splash in the US, and if Wilder is such an easy mark knock him out and take the prize.

Are you not disillusioned? If wilder is well known in the US by casuals, how come he has never been on ppv?
Do you have brains to think at all?

[WbaYoungboy]

You could be from Mars it still wouldn't mean you have a clue what your talking about .

Joshua to fight Fury right away ? Wouldnt that be difficult with mandatories and Furys recent signing with Warren which is going to take minimum a year to even prepare for Joshua ?


The only thing i will call here is IDIOT , which would be you . Now delete this alt bc its going to crash snd burn BADLY .

This isnt an Alt its my account numb nuts.. I'm telling you that if he could Joshua would sign to fight fury today they won't be no trouble with money,, because he knows fury isn't ready,, just like he knew parker wasn't ready,, AND Just like he knew Wlad was vulnerable when they fought,, my points made by the way you couldn't come back with any educated answers and took to name calling,, good try though kid!!! You go spend the day googling information won't you,, yours truly
Dylan Braithwaite✋

[Redgloveman]

This isnt an Alt its my account numb nuts.. I'm telling you that if he could Joshua would sign to fight fury today they won't be no trouble with money,, because he knows fury isn't ready,, just like he knew parker wasn't ready,, AND Just like he knew Wlad was vulnerable when they fought,, my points made by the way you couldn't come back with any educated answers and took to name calling,, good try though kid!!! You go spend the day googling information won't you,, yours truly
Dylan Braithwaite✋

What point? You said that Joshua is afraid of Wilder just on the basis of the fact that the fight isn't happening?

But Joshua is the side that has actually sent an offer and Wilder's side is the one that has gone quiet for the last two weeks.

Joshua and Hearn have repeatedly said that they want Wilder next because they want to unify the division. They have genuine motivation for wanting it. You can say they're lying if you want, but you'd need to come up with some kind of evidence to base it on.

Saying "because the fight isn't being made" isn't good enough because out of the two parties to this contract the Joshua side seem far more interested in making the fight at the moment.

I don't particularly want to take sides in this debate, because I've always thought that the fight will be made eventually and it is just a matter of time; but you can't make the argument that Joshua is the scared side at this point in time because they seem the only side that is really trying to make the fight - yes, even if the opening offer is (shock, horror) a low one.

[Lokutus]

Why do you care about what they're earning or food being taken from Hearn's mouth? - He sure wouldn't think twice about taking yours.

This is the problem with boxing. Fans should remember they are the ones that put money into the sport. Promoters are only playing with money that comes from paying customers. Fans should be demanding the best fights get made at all costs, rather than taking sides of promoters and justifying things.

Only sensible post on this thread. At the end of the day you need the WBC title to make this hype trains legacy legit. It's a more lucrative title than any of the plastic straps round Joshua's waist.

If you want the lucrative undisputed title then get your wallet out and pay for it. Of not go back to charging idiots 20 quid a pop for mismatches.

[WbaYoungboy]

What point? You said that Joshua is afraid of Wilder just on the basis of the fact that the fight isn't happening?

But Joshua is the side that has actually sent an offer and Wilder's side is the one that has gone quiet for the last two weeks.

Joshua and Hearn have repeatedly said that they want Wilder next because they want to unify the division. They have genuine motivation for wanting it. You can say they're lying if you want, but you'd need to come up with some kind of evidence to base it on.

Saying "because the fight isn't being made" isn't good enough because out of the two parties to this contract the Joshua side seem far more interested in making the fight at the moment.

I don't particularly want to take sides in this debate, because I've always thought that the fight will be made eventually and it is just a matter of time; but you can't make the argument that Joshua is the scared side at this point in time because they seem the only side that is really trying to make the fight - yes, even if the opening offer is (shock, horror) a low one.

What are you talking about you've jumped In halfway through without knowing everything I wrote previously... Next time don't interrupt and be left with egg on your face Jesus Christ