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  • #51
    Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
    Andrade beat Vanes clearly. I gave Vanes 4 rounds but if you want to get creative he won 5 but that's too close.
    The SD verdict would dispute that

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
      The SD verdict would dispute that
      I can give you even more dominant and one-sided fights that were split decisions or even bad decisions. Some judges are flat out terrible.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
        Those are just excuses. Excuses don't make it a legit fight. If GGG were in training Abel wouldn't call Vanes for sparring because he's been out so long and it would be a waste of a sparring session & money.

        What's the bottom for you as a GGG fan? Is there any fight you can think of that you wouldn't approve of?
        I didn't say that I approve of it. You're assuming sh@t now. Vanes is a good fighter even if not close to elite. It's not GGG's fault that Andrade turned down short money or that the money is too short for GGG to fight a threat like Derevyanchenko with a Canelo rematch possible for Sept. But I do think with the given circumstances this fight is better than sitting on the sidelines. Is that what you want to happen? Since Canelo has to sit idle then GGG should? See where that's not fair yet? I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. (and a GGG hater)

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        • #54
          Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
          I can give you even more dominant and one-sided fights that were split decisions or even bad decisions. Some judges are flat out terrible.
          I agree about the judges but I watched the fight live and while I did think Andrade deserved the win, It certainly wasn't some kind of route or anything.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
            Vanes, who isn't top at 154, coming off 2 year layoff with 3 weeks of training isnt GGG hate. It's common sense.

            An active Vanes with wins against Jrock & Tony Harrison with a full camp. Then this fight could be somehow justified.
            Im not in love with this matchup either. Get the damned thing over and move on. The Canelo rematch turned into a circus. Canelo essentially doesn't get punished, G may get stripped.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
              I agree about the judges but I watched the fight live and while I did think Andrade deserved the win, It certainly wasn't some kind of route or anything.
              Not a route but a clear cut decision in a competitive fight.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                Not a route but a clear cut decision in a competitive fight.
                Bolded ^ This is all I was saying.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by davef View Post
                  lol if someone claimed this before he signed to fight GGG they would have been shot down by near half the damn forum
                  Like that mean's anything? I dare say 70%-80% of the posters here DKSAB.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    Those are just excuses. Excuses don't make it a legit fight. If GGG were in training Abel wouldn't call Vanes for sparring because he's been out so long and it would be a waste of a sparring session & money.

                    What's the bottom for you as a GGG fan? Is there any fight you can think of that you wouldn't approve of?
                    Yeah Mayweather vs McGregor was a complete farce or are you just keyed in on Golovkin...

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                    • #60
                      I checked out some older threads on NSB and the majority had Vanes beating Charlo when they fought, also alot of people thought Vanes won vs Lara at least once.

                      After Vanes fought Charlo they all said Charlo got exposed, got a gift decision etc.

                      Here is that thread: https://www.boxingscene.com/jermell-...ver-ten--89075

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