When Ortiz failed a drug test Wilder fought his mandatory on short notice

[ruedboy]

Funnily enough Stiverne had been out for 2 years and had no business being in the mandatory position. He was manouvred into a false ranking and was actually a worse opponent than Vanes even.

Thread down and out! A one shot KO!

[Jsmooth9876]

That is the IBF issue to sort out.

Exactly and I can't see the reasoning in them approving the Canelo fight then stripping GGG because he didn't fight the guy on 3 weeks notice. It just makes no sense to me. If they order the fight on May 7th and he balks at it, then fine, take the title, and everyone can move on with their lives. It would suck because a BJS fight could crown an undisputed champion but whatever, that fight could be a year off anyway.

[Johnston]

im typing super fast and not proof reading

at least i understand the difference between "your" and "you're" and their and theyre....i have a good understanding of the English language

typing 60 words a minute as fast as i can doesn't make me an imbecile

that's not improper grammar...that's leaving out letters because im tying at warp speed you dolt

English is my second language so I make mistakes, your excuse is laziness and typing fast lol ok

Dont point fingers if your hands aren't clean

[chrisJS]

im typing super fast and not proof reading

at least i understand the difference between "your" and "you're" and their and theyre....i have a good understanding of the English language

typing 60 words a minute as fast as i can doesn't make me an imbecile

that's not improper grammar...that's leaving out letters because im tying at warp speed you dolt

Well maybe he wasn't proof reading and could have been on his phone that sometimes does auto correct and does so incorrectly? You are just a petty clown and tried to put him down on his grammar while typing a full post which was full of horrible mistakes as usual. Everyone makes mistakes but fair is fair. If you are going to be grammar police then you shouldn't make glaring errors.

[bigjavi973]

"DiBella, who’s promoting the card headlined by the Deontay Wilder-Stiverne rematch Saturday night at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center, can’t think of any reasonable justification for Stiverne being the WBC’s mandatory challenger for Wilder’s title. Stiverne (25-2-1, 21 KOs), who’ll turn 39 on Wednesday, has fought just once in nearly three years since losing the WBC heavyweight title to Wilder. "


“How do you fight one fight in two years against a guy that knocked you down and subsequently gets knocked out, and barely do anything, and you’re still the WBC mandatory?,” DiBella asked during a recent conference call. “That would’ve been a better question. "



Not even Wilders OWN guys would make such a attempt to compare GGGand Wilder situations !!!!!!!!!

you can bring out all the popcorn you want.....

you just provided someones OPINION and what I posted was actual FACTS


you can try again....using facts this time not opinions


oh it was wilder's opinion that he shouldnt even fight stiverne fyi

[chrisJS]

English is my second language so I make mistakes, your excuse is laziness and typing fast lol ok

Dont point fingers if your hands aren't clean

I had no idea English wasn't your first language. No surprise he's picking on a foreigner I guess. LOL

Funny though it backfires and then his post had way more errors and then has excuses as to why. LOL

[juggernaut666]

you can bring out all the popcorn you want.....

you just provided someones OPINION and what I posted was actual FACTS


you can try again....using facts this time not opinions


oh it was wilder's opinion that he shouldnt even fight stiverne fyi

Its not someones opinion ,its a KEY player in Wilders career ( not that its a good thing ) __

It doesn't matter IF Wilder wanted to fight Stiverne , the FACT you desperate fanboys think this is the same situation is comical.

For one , this isnt the HW championship .

And Two what FACTS on earth are you talking about ?

GGG has approximately 2 weeks to get an opponent IF he wants May 5th . This is just a stay busy fight , what does Stiverne fighting for the HW title have to do with that ? And how does that effect you ?

[bigjavi973]

Its not someones opinion ,its a KEY player in Wilders career ( not that its a good thing ) __

It doesn't matter IF Wilder wanted to fight Stiverne , the FACT you desperate fanboys think this is the same situation is comical.

For one , this isnt the HW championship .

And Two what FACTS on earth are you talking about ?

GGG has approximately 2 weeks to get an opponent IF he wants May 5th . This is just a stay busy fight , what does Stiverne fighting for the HW title have to do with that ? And how does that effect you ?

stiverne was a mando....

derevyanchenko is ggg's mando

derev is READY and WILLING to fight may 5th



i just dont get how hard is that to understand.....


Wilder didnt wanna fight stiverne but it was his mando he wanted to

those are FACTS


you can try one more time if you'd like

[uppercut510]

I'm not trying to elevate but it's clearly a better opponent than Stiverne. I'm just pointing to these guys praising the Stiverne win (off of 2 years off and his last performance was trash getting dropped by a bum) have little room to bash Vanes and that 3-3 comes against much better opposition than Stiverne's. He deserved the W over Charlo, plus Lara and Andrade were at least competitive and better than anything Stiverne has ever fought let alone beaten. In fact Ishe is better than anything Stiverne ever beat too.

Then we've also got the fact that Stiverne is close to 40 and grossly out of shape.

bro stop it please and nobody is praising the stervine 2 win the knock out was impressive but it was on short notice, the first fight was a good win for wilder tho none of you will give him credit but the second was due to Ortiz failing a test so the it can be scrutinized yes. I don't see Wilder fans saying that was some record upping win. unless I just didn't see the post, but Geegg fans are actually making threads on why Vanes is a good opponent and they should stop

[juggernaut666]

stiverne was a mando....

derevyanchenko is ggg's mando

derev is READY and WILLING to fight may 5th



i just dont get how hard is that to understand.....


Wilder didnt wanna fight stiverne but it was his mando he wanted to

those are FACTS


you can try one more time if you'd like

Your switching the topic around as a Mandatory discussion , which has ZERO relevance here while ignoring everything i just pointed out . The FACT is Stiverne accepted Wilders step aside money and only Ortiz failing of disclosing info is WHY Stiverne ended up fighting Wilder and not Breazeale who would have knocked out Stiverne .

Either way debating with y the Wilder fan is never actually a discussion of logics ,only fabrications like this one to fit a agenda !


The ONLY fact here is you dont make a Derevyanchenko fight ona few weeks notice bc it is a MAJOR fight . If you were boxing savvy you would KNOW this and you wouldn't be posting just to find loop holes to fit AGENDAS .

That would be like Wilder fighting Parker on 3 weeks notice , get real .


I dont really care enough about this topic to go on and on about it bc the end result is just a waste of time !Have at it !