Comments Thread For: Povetkin's Promoter Feels They Have Good Shot To Shock Joshua

[Bronx2245]

How has he EARNED that right. I can understand as a fan you would want that for him but economically how has he earned that? He won’t be generating 40% of the money. If he were to get 40% thats definitely an overpayment imo.

Dan Rafael ESPN:

"Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

Of course, $12.5 million large is giant money for most people, but for a fight of this magnitude, it is not a serious offer. If Wilder's team -- managers Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel and Jay Deas and promoter Lou DiBella -- accepted the deal, they would be committing malpractice on behalf of their client.

For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event. Wilder is worth more than that, obviously; he brings the last piece of the undisputed title to the table, he brings a bigger fan base and, on his own, he generates more money than Parker does.

If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing."

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ean-fight-next

[DougalDylan]

It sorts out a Wilder rematch also. Otherwise the rematch could cause the drop of the WBA belt as happened with the IBF and Tyson.

I'll be disappointed if Joshua vs Wilder isn't next but Povetkin is someone who needs to be dealt with eventually as a top 5 contender, or a pretender who needs to get bounced to the back of the line.

[DougalDylan]

Dan Rafael ESPN:

"Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

Of course, $12.5 million large is giant money for most people, but for a fight of this magnitude, it is not a serious offer. If Wilder's team -- managers Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel and Jay Deas and promoter Lou DiBella -- accepted the deal, they would be committing malpractice on behalf of their client.

For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event. Wilder is worth more than that, obviously; he brings the last piece of the undisputed title to the table, he brings a bigger fan base and, on his own, he generates more money than Parker does.

If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing."

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ean-fight-next

"When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event as Joshua only had two belts now he has that extra belt he has obviously increased his worth and therefore Wilder will have to accept less."


"When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event."

[STREET CLEANER]

I like the Povetkin fight for either guy. He is like the last credible opponent left.

Too bad he has gotten up there in age and all his PED problems. He is going to have a hard time getting into the reach of either guy and if the ref don't let him fight inside he will even have a harder time.

[nycsmooth]

Povetkin's brutish strength and maulling style will not serve him well versus Joshua who will stop him in the middle rounds he's made to order for this guy..

[Ray*]

This would be a great fight to be honest, the busier Russian against the robotic style of Joshua.

[Bronx2245]

"When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event as Joshua only had two belts now he has that extra belt he has obviously increased his worth and therefore Wilder will have to accept less."


"When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event."

"... as Joshua only had two belts now he has that extra belt he has obviously increased his worth and therefore Wilder will have to accept less."

Where did that part come from?

[4truth]

If Povetkin can keep from getting KO'd early, I think he has an excellent chance to catch a tired Joshua and stop him.

[Fabes88]

Dan Rafael ESPN:

"Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

Of course, $12.5 million large is giant money for most people, but for a fight of this magnitude, it is not a serious offer. If Wilder's team -- managers Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel and Jay Deas and promoter Lou DiBella -- accepted the deal, they would be committing malpractice on behalf of their client.

For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event. Wilder is worth more than that, obviously; he brings the last piece of the undisputed title to the table, he brings a bigger fan base and, on his own, he generates more money than Parker does.

If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing."

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ean-fight-next

Still disagree. You have to bear in mind at this point aj has now collected 3 of the 4 belts he’s done all the legwork unifying them. That wasn’t the case in the Parker fight and although wilder may be worth more, he also has a lot more to gain than jp did. I just feel 10 million more than you’ve ever earned for the opportunity to go down in history is not as bad an offer as people want to make out especially when you take his earning power into consideration.

Aj already said if team wilder are so sure it makes eight figures they should put their money where their large mouths are.

Parker also wasn’t worth what he was paid. Me. Lie women lie but numbers don’t. End of the day he’s not a charity and none of these heavyweights are making anything close to what he is. You can say it takes two to tango but he’ll be able to make a similar amount fighting most too ranked heavyweights. There’s going to be a point where aj gets tired of overpaying his opponents and given the things wilder has said about him recently I’m not surprised it’s starting now.

Regardless the fight will be made and it will be on a % split basis I just think the point of this offer was to put wilder in his place and let him know what they think he’s worth but I still don’t think it’s as terrible an offer as people would lead you to believe.

[Oshio]

Povetkin is one of the 3 good HW out there. It would be a good fight moving forward if Wilder-Joshua does not work.