IBF should have been more proactive in this GGG fiasco?

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  • kafkod
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    #11
    Originally posted by Street15
    Possible? They haven't made a ruling yet.





    His team (Connolly and DiBella) are currently lobbying for it now. When they say "he will be stripped" - they are speaking from the hope that the IBF will enforce and mandate that fight. They just haven't yet.

    This explains what's going on:

    Originally posted by OnePunch
    The situation is a bit more nuanced than that. Golovkin has an IBF mando due. Its been due for some time now. He was given a pass for the Canelo fight, but no opponent other than Canelo or Saunders (unification) would have been approved. Fighting anyone else would result (and SHOULD result) in the IBF stripping him.

    Everyone knows Im a HUGE GGG fan. But if he fights anyone other than Saunders or Derev next, then the IBF would be correct in stripping him.

    You either have rules, or you dont.

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    • Street15
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      #12
      Originally posted by kafkod
      This explains what's going on:
      Wait...huh?

      I literally just posted words from Connolly himself. They are currently lobbying for the IBF to enforce it.

      If it was already enforced, Connolly wouldnt have wrote the IBF a letter and Lou wouldnt be lobbying.

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        #13
        Originally posted by kafkod
        I'm baffled by a statement from Dibella, saying that if GGG vs Martirosyan is finalised, the IBF will strip GGG of their title.

        How can a champion be stripped for not fighting his mando, if he hasn't been formally ordered to do it? And the IBF can't order GGG to fight his mando next if he's already signed a contract to fight someone else.

        Is it possible that the IBF might have ordered GGG to fight Derevyanchenko without announcing it to anyone?
        From my understanding, all three sanctioning bodies for the belts g holds, needs to accept or deny any opponent for those belts. It appears at this time, that the IBF has not decided if they will enforce their rules and mandate G fight Derevyanchenko before any optional. For g to sign a contract to fight someone else, he needs the blessing of the IBF. That is why a contract with Martirosyan has not been signed. The ibf said no.

        Apparently they have not confirmed if they will allow anyone besides Derevyanchenko to be g's next opponent or not. And without their consent, their is no fight, so no signed contracts. I'm not sure if the IBF turned down Vanes, because he is such a weak opponent, or if they are just waiting to decide if they are going to enforce Derevyanchenko as mandatory and G's next opponent.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Street15
          Wait...huh?

          I literally just posted words from Connolly himself. They are currently lobbying for the IBF to enforce it.

          If it was already enforced, Connolly wouldnt have wrote the IBF a letter and Lou wouldnt be lobbying.
          As GGG was given a pass on his IBF mando so he could fight either Canelo (already ordered by the WBC) or BJS (unification) I would say that signing to fight somebody other than Canelo or BJS would put him in breach of the IBF's rules on mandos and they would be entitled to strip him immediately.

          I guess Connolly is lobbying for the IBF to enforce their rules strictly.

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            #15
            Originally posted by lex_fugitive
            From my understanding, all three sanctioning bodies for the belts g holds, needs to accept or deny any opponent for those belts. It appears at this time, that the IBF has not decided if they will enforce their rules and mandate G fight Derevyanchenko before any optional. For g to sign a contract to fight someone else, he needs the blessing of the IBF. That is why a contract with Martirosyan has not been signed. The ibf said no.

            Apparently they have not confirmed if they will allow anyone besides Derevyanchenko to be g's next opponent or not. And without their consent, their is no fight, so no signed contracts. I'm not sure if the IBF turned down Vanes, because he is such a weak opponent, or if they are just waiting to decide if they are going to enforce Derevyanchenko as mandatory and G's next opponent.
            Yeah, that makes sense.

            See the comment posted in another thread that I just quoted here. Technically, the IBF have already ordered GGG to fight Derevyanchenko next, if he doesn't fight either Canelo or BJS. So they could strip him immediately if he signed with Martirosyan.

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            • Street15
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              #16
              Originally posted by kafkod
              As GGG was given a pass on his IBF mando so he could fight either Canelo (already ordered by the WBC) or BJS (unification) I would say that signing to fight somebody other than Canelo or BJS would put him in breach of the IBF's rules on mandos and they would be entitled to strip him immediately.

              I guess Connolly is lobbying for the IBF to enforce their rules strictly.
              Yeah. That's what it is. It looks as though the IBF are willing to let it slide. They want to make sure they OFFICIALLY mandate it

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                #17
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Yeah, that makes sense.

                See the comment posted in another thread that I just quoted here. Technically, the IBF have already ordered GGG to fight Derevyanchenko next, if he doesn't fight either Canelo or BJS. So they could strip him immediately if he signed with Martirosyan.
                Yeah. They called for it. But they have to enforce and announce it in order for it to be official.

                Any sanction can call for a fighter to fight someone next, they have to order AND enforce it though. Normally that comes with "fighter a has to start negotations with fighter b by (specific date) or it will go to a purse bid".

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                  #18
                  lots of good posts in this thread by true ggg fans...

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