Lomachenko and the Pacman are far from hypejobs. It's moronic to put them on this list. The rest, say whatever you wish.
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Originally posted by Dosumpthin View PostHandled Bradley easily in 2012????
Get it through your thick skull
MANNY LOST
Smh.
And yeah HORN beat him too. FACT
Hands down Pacquiao is the biggest hypejob in history. The only fanbase that has an excuse for every loss so they don't count.
Let me guess you think Chavez got a legit draw with Whitaker and Lewis was really only 1-0-1 against Holyfield and that Williams beat Lara? You also think Pacquaio really won fight 3 with Marquez? God your dumb.
You are a horrible judge.
Pacquaio lost all the Marquez fights but he clearly beat Bradley 3 times.
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostYou really think Bradley won? Dude I was happy he got robbed and won some drunken money I placed in Vegas that night but nah.
Let me guess you think Chavez got a legit draw with Whitaker and Lewis was really only 1-0-1 against Holyfield and that Williams beat Lara? You also think Pacquaio really won fight 3 with Marquez? God your dumb.
You are a horrible judge.
Pacquaio lost all the Marquez fights but he clearly beat Bradley 3 times.
Whitaker was robbed
Lewis was robbed
Lara was robbed
We both got all of those fights agreed on, but Pacquiao won 2 of the fights, IMO. Marquez the other two.
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostYeah it's bizarre. There's a lot of Mayweather fans who've convinced themselves every fighter entered their prime and was an all-time great the specific night he fought them.
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostThat's a very specific situation and the eras are different. A higher % of fights are against "champions" now and there's less tune-ups. Danny Garcia has beaten more champions than Hagler or Sanchez he's not better in my view. Also p4p isn't a real thing. Bradley wouldn't have been in my top 5 just because the Ring said so doesn't make it so. It could be debated he brought a 3 fight losing streak into fight 2. Vargas is a solid guy not much more really.
Tommy Hearns was quite a ways from his best but he managed to soundly defeat Virgil Hill. Roberto Duran was way pst his best and had suffered bad losses beat Barkley. There's many more faded greats who've scored huge wins bigger than PacquIo-Bradley and Vargas.
I get it you like Floyd A LOT. You want to protect that win like he beat a prime Pacquaio but there's a HUGE difference in Pacquaio pre and post Marquez. That KO and everything else had caught up to him. He'd lost his explosiveness and he wasn't taking risks in there anymore. Surely losing to a very average fighter like Jeff Horn shows this?
Bradley was universally considered in the Top 10 P4P at the time so you can say you don't agree but doesn't change that fact.
So you went from many instances to none? I can name you plenty of those specific examples. Scrap P4P then, name me one time a "finished" fighter beat a Top 5 guy in their division and a top 10 guy in their division consecutively.
He lost to Jeff Horn over 2 years later so another head scratcher from you.
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostYeah it's bizarre. There's a lot of Mayweather fans who've convinced themselves every fighter entered their prime and was an all-time great the specific night he fought them.
Who said he was in his prime?
Quote me saying he was in his primeLast edited by IronDanHamza; 04-12-2018, 01:41 PM.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Postyou had to roll cotto, manny, and shane down the isle in a wheelchair and hit them with smelling salts by the time floyd fought them, yet these are all-time great wins from a floyd boy's perspective...
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostA never said anything about a "Champion" so why you brought that up I don't know.
Bradley was universally considered in the Top 10 P4P at the time so you can say you don't agree but doesn't change that fact.
So you went from many instances to none? I can name you plenty of those specific examples. Scrap P4P then, name me one time a "finished" fighter beat a Top 5 guy in their division and a top 10 guy in their division consecutively.
He lost to Jeff Horn over 2 years later so another head scratcher from you.
Again, the era's are different and often fighters fight less and don't have as many interim fights so back to back fights isn't that measurable. Did I say "many instances of beating a p4p guy then a top 10 guy"? No. You either made that up or didn't comprehend what " There's many cases of once great fighters scoring a win when clearly past their best." actually means. In more plain English it means boxers have scored big wins when clearly over the hill.
To which I pointed out Hearns and Duran as two easy examples of the top of my head. Holmes beating Mercer is also a pretty good example. Carbajal over Arce, Foreman over Moorer, Leonard beating Hagler, Robinson beating Olson, Fullmer, Basilio when clearly past his best also examples though probably less past it than Pacquaio but bigger wins nonetheless.
Pacquaio had already thrashed Bradley who'd had a number of hard fights himself and there's no such thing as a "fact" when it comes to something as mythical as p4p. Who determines the fact of p4p?
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