Pac/May both draws. Not Comparable To Joshua/Wilder

[HeadShots]

Those bringing up Mayweather's flat fee. Pac was selling 1 million PPV's on his own at that time. it made no sense for Pac to not get a split.



Wilder on the other hand. Honestly, I'm a huge Wilder fan but he's had the worst team in boxing history. just absolute failures and rejects. dibella has to be the worst promoter in boxing history. shelley finkle uses a walker aid and lives in the hospital. how is he going to promote anybody.

[HeadShots]

Wilder needs this way more than Joshua. He needs a break-out fight. He needs a live body. He needs to get paid.


The problem is Joshua really do not need to fight him. Period. I think Wilder wins btw even with a british ref and judges. Wilder will catch Joshua from the outside.

[4truth]

The bigger difference, IMO, is that May&Pac had sound reputations built over many years and fights. Joshua and Wilder do not. There is a lot of money on the table right now and most of it goes away with a single loss by either.

[HeadShots]

The bigger difference, IMO, is that May&Pac had sound reputations built over many years and fights. Joshua and Wilder do not. There is a lot of money on the table right now and most of it goes away with a single loss by either.

you're telling me even after a loss to a huge international audience to AJ. Wilder would still be fighting for 1 mil in front of 1000 people?


use some critical thinking skills please.



AJ stands to lose much more. Wilder literally won't lose a damn thing.

[Robbie Barrett]

Pacquiao was also making 20+ mil so the 40 mil was 2x what he usually made. Wilders highest purse is 2 mil, the 12.5 mil offer is 6x that. A huge difference.

If Pacquiao was offered 6x what he was making would he have turned it down?

[Chrismart]

Yeah, they're not comparable at all at present. Probably never.

[The Big Dunn]

Guys, how many PPV's sold has no bearing on the discussion of flat fee offers.

The people that felt Mayweather's flat fee offer to Manny and ODH's flat fee offer to GGG said the concept of the flat fee offer wasn't fair. Now that AJ is doing this to Wilder, the same posters have no issue with the concept of the flat fee offer.

To justify their switch in position and avoid being labeled fanboys or hypocrites these posters are going with "ppv sales" as the determining factor if a flt fee offer can be made. Complete and utter bullsh-t.

All of us really know what is going on:

When Manny and GGG, 2 very popular guys on NSB, got flat fee offers from Floyd and Canelo, 2 guys NSB re not high on, their fans didn't like it because the bigger stars were treating their favorites like regular opponents, not "stars" or "HOF'ers", and said they should just be happy getting a career high payday. That triggered their fans.

AJ is a popular guy on NSB. Wilder is not liked or respected. These same posters don't care if Wilder is getting treated like a regular opponent because to them that is what he is.

Now they don't talk about the concept of the flat fee offer being fair or not but instead talk about Wilder's earnings and how he should be happy he is getting a career high payday.

[Boksfan]

Let's see how desperate Wilder is. Most likely Wilder vs Breazeale next.

[hectari]

Floyd offering pacquiao a flat fee was floyd realizing pacquiao is dumb and he was just giving it the old college try lol, he knew it probably wouldnt work but might as well give it a shot after all pacman is the same guy who took 200k in cash to sign with golden boy, while juan baby bull diaz got over a million signing bonus for golden boy, juan diaz was nowhere near pacs level of fame and potential, the offer was a slap in the face but pacman was ****** enough to sign.

Floyd knew pac was worth more and deserved a split, he was just trying to see if pac was going to take the bait knowing his history of signing bad deals.

Joshuas deal is a fair one for wilder, wilder should take it and beat aj and get more in the rematch, right now he has zero clout.

Wilder is a relative nobody, its sad to say but he has no fanbase in the states, joshu is wayyyyyy more popular than him in his country, wilder was not promoted well at all, they should have put him on talk shows like jimmy kimmel five years ago.

[kafkod]

Guys, how many PPV's sold has no bearing on the discussion of flat fee offers.

The people that felt Mayweather's flat fee offer to Manny and ODH's flat fee offer to GGG said the concept of the flat fee offer wasn't fair. Now that AJ is doing this to Wilder, the same posters have no issue with the concept of the flat fee offer.

To justify their switch in position and avoid being labeled fanboys or hypocrites these posters are going with "ppv sales" as the determining factor if a flt fee offer can be made. Complete and utter bullsh-t.

All of us really know what is going on:

When Manny and GGG, 2 very popular guys on NSB, got flat fee offers from Floyd and Canelo, 2 guys NSB re not high on, their fans didn't like it because the bigger stars were treating their favorites like regular opponents, not "stars" or "HOF'ers", and said they should just be happy getting a career high payday. That triggered their fans.

AJ is a popular guy on NSB. Wilder is not liked or respected. These same posters don't care if Wilder is getting treated like a regular opponent because to them that is what he is.

Now they don't talk about the concept of the flat fee offer being fair or not but instead talk about Wilder's earnings and how he should be happy he is getting a career high payday.

Whether you agree with the flat fee or not, Floyd's offer to Manny was for a fight that would have happened immediately, if it had been accepted. AJ's offer to Wilder - if the rumours are true - is also for an immediate fight.

Oscar's offer to GGG was different, very different, because he was asking Golovkin to accept terms for a fight that wasn't going to happen for another year, whether the offer was accepted or not.