Everyone in boxing is talking about Hearn and Joshua's

[chrisJS]

Fans aren't that ****** so don't assume that they are.

I've read for weeks from Wilder fans how the U.K. Fights make no money and the live gate means nothing so going by that logic $100m is very optimistic.

If the fight is on PPV then I understand more of a higher figure but based solely on U.K. Money $12.5m is a great deal especially since it's such an easy fight for Wilder and he'd get Joshua's split in a return.

[dan_cov]

Dan, do you understand what's going on here? Because from this answer, it seems like you don't...and I'm not trying to insult you. They did the projections and said that the fight could generate $100 mil. Wilder gets $12 mil. Who gets the rest of this money? And with Joshua getting huge TV revenue how can you even post that answer?

I get his bluff has been called.
100 million is just a random number and not like that will be split directly between the two fighters anyway. Even it was 100 million by the time they paid for the venue and everything almost 13 of that for the much lesser draws hardly an insult imo

He made a huge deal over it even claiming he'd fight for one dollar aslong as AJ took it in a rematch.
What's wrong if AJ has to take the exact offer in a rematch?

Sidenote; I don't care who makes what I just want to see them fight but he's squirming and going back on his word.

[Kezzer]

Wait until you know what the offer is. Then discuss it.

[bballchump11]

Wilder said he'll accept any offer aslong as its reversed in the rematch?
We going to justify him turning down 12 million fawkin' dollars? *Whoopi Goldberg voice* twelve million dollars!

Hearn didn't agree to that in his offer he sent to Wilder.

[juggernaut666]

Wilder WOULD make a minimum of 25 Million for TWO fights .

Math is not a strong point for this group ( look who the OP is ) so basically Wilder would NEED to fight around TEN times to make close to that , ASSUMING he is making OVER 2 Million a fight which is also probably unlikely .

Thats FIVE years give or take as oppossed to ONE year to make that money to fight Joshua 2 x .


IF Wilder wins he then makes himself his own entity and brings in a substantially larger amount of $$ per fight .


IF Wilder does not take whatever final offer is given , he doesn't have confidence in himself and him and his entire team is SHOOK !

[PensionKiller]

Dan, do you understand what's going on here? Because from this answer, it seems like you don't...and I'm not trying to insult you. They did the projections and said that the fight could generate $100 mil. Wilder gets $12 mil. Who gets the rest of this money? And with Joshua getting huge TV revenue how can you even post that answer?

Where is the 100 mil figure coming from?

You do realise revenue is different to purses... Even if it generated 100 mil revenue, TV companies etc get paid out of ppv for example...

However tell me where you get 100 mil from.

[soul_survivor]

lowball offer to Wilder.
This is why they're talking about the $12 mil offer.


For a fight that may very well generate $100 million dollars, they offered Wilder $12 mil, lmao. Now it's the first offer made by Hearn and Joshua so there will be a counter offer as I said earlier.

Floyd Mayweather Jr tried this B.S with Pac by offering $40 million talking about he would wire Pac $20 mil and he would get the rest after the fight or something like that lmao. Pac and Arum were smart to quickly reject that offer. How much did that fight generate? This kind of offer from Hearn and Joshua shows what they truly think of Wilder, the danger that he brings...and the reluctance to fight him.

They have never negotiated a big fight before and are rookies when talking with Haymon and whoever. Now it was their first offer, and Wilder will come with a counter offer.

All day we talked about this "flat fee" rate that you guys rejected that Floyd offered Pac...yet are saying that Wilder should take the offer and let Joshua make possibly $50 million or more. Are you ****en serious!

Again, let me be clear. A fight that can generate $100 dollars and they want to give Wilder only $12 mil...!!!???

Joshua has never made $50 million so who is helping generate that $100 mil? Wlad, Takam, Parker? What did those fights generate? So it's silly to attempt to say that Wilder should take the offer because he's never made more than this or that.

A fight that can generate $100 mil and they offer Wilder who is a champion in his own right and owns the most prestigious belt $12 mil.

I DON'T MIND OF JOSHUA MAKES MORE! But if Joshua is set to earn $50 million, why are you offering Wilder $12 mil?

My conclusion. I told you guys a long time ago about how they might lowball Wilder. But...I'll wait until they finish negotiations-I'm patient.

Right now Hearn and Joshua's offer is trash, and Haymon knows this. Many people have come out and when they heard Hearns offer and what the fight could generate and have ****ted on Hearn and Joshua basically saying that they don't want the fight.

My personal comments: Lets wait on Wilder's counter offer. Wilder is letting the man make more than him since the fight is in the UK, and they offer on $12 mil for a fight set to generate possibly $100 mil. Sad...

Isn't this offer based on a single tweet? Do you have any solid evidence this was the actual offer?

Even if it is, this $12 million offer is 6 times more than Wilder received in his last fight. For a man who is almost unknown, never fought on PPV, never fought a major stadium fight and is not considered a draw in boxing circles, that is HUGE money.

Golovkin, a much more proven, known and bankable commodity than Wilder will ever be only received $3 million more in his fight against Canelo.

Explain to me how guy barely scraping $2million but is now getting $10 mill more is a bad thing?

[soul_survivor]

Where is the 100 mil figure coming from?

You do realise revenue is different to purses... Even if it generated 100 mil revenue, TV companies etc get paid out of ppv for example...

However tell me where you get 100 mil from.

I was gonna type this is my post too but felt it would sound too condescending lol

These idiots on here think fighters split the entire revenue of a fight...regardless of where that info comes from. smh

[Scopedog]

Just make your offer a percentage of the purse like normal and all this confusion goes away. It would not surprise me if Hearn made this flat offer to obscure the actual percentage of the purse Joshua would be taking away.

[iamboxing]

Leaving aside whether Wilder is popular or not, AJ gains the WBC and becomes undisputed. That alone justifies giving Wilder a reasonable cut.

No, instead, lets aggravate him, tell him you're the boss and then phrase our offer in ultimatums so accepting makes him feel like a weak b1tch.