Everyone in boxing is talking about Hearn and Joshua's

[_Rexy_]

Wilder said he'll accept any offer aslong as its reversed in the rematch?
We going to justify him turning down 12 million fawkin' dollars? *Whoopi Goldberg voice* twelve million dollars!

Except the offer is 12mil and it not being reversed in the rematch.

So you were saying?

[R_Walken]

So US PPV will be 200k-500k in the afternoon since it is in the UK? Hopefully so considering Wilder on non PPV vs Ortiz only did 1.2 mil viewers

50 is more realistic for the fighters to share when you take away TV company shares.

I already stated in another post that if they start a hour or so later then they usually do in London the main event would start around 7 pm Eastern time ( a time that isn’t uncommin for major sporting events to start ) and 4 pm pacific

And I’d like to believe the biggest fight in the HW division in 15 years featuring 2 unbeaten prime , high KO % HWs for all the straps could outsell a GGg/ Lemieux PPV in the States a fight that no one wanted as a PPV

I maybe wrong but don’t think the 200k - 500k is being unrealistic. Come on man 50k that’s Crawford / Postol #s this PPV would surely eclipse that

Even at 50 million take home it generates somewhere in the area of 70-80 million and could do what AJ/Klit did to achieve this

I could be way off base and really just going off previous numbers but honestly think the fight could easily generate 100 mil and that’s being conservative maybe I think the fight is bigger then it actually is Indont I know

[Raggamuffin]

I was neutral on the Wilder vs AJ debate until they made Wilder this joke of a take it or leave it offer. Mayweather's offer to Pacquiao was an insulting joke and this offer is almost as bad. Unless they make Wilder a better offer based on a percentage split of all available money I think they want no part of fighting Wilder and sent an offer they knew would be turned down. I know AJ is the A side but that doesn't entitle him to make 4 times what Wilder makes. A 65/35 split in AJ's favor is the least Wilder should get. I read that Khan got 13 million to fight Canelo in a non title fight that wasn't half this big and Khan wasn't even a champion.

Good post.


"The contract does not indicate where the fight will take place, when it will take place, or even whether it will be Joshua’s next fight".

[PensionKiller]

I already stated in another post that if they start a hour or so later then they usually do in London the main event would start around 7 pm Eastern time ( a time that isn’t uncommin for major sporting events to start ) and 4 pm pacific

And I’d like to believe the biggest fight in the HW division in 15 years featuring 2 unbeaten prime , high KO % HWs for all the straps could outsell a GGg/ Lemieux PPV in the States a fight that no one wanted as a PPV

I maybe wrong but don’t think the 200k - 500k is being unrealistic. Come on man 50k that’s Crawford / Postol #s this PPV would surely eclipse that

Even at 50 million take home it generates somewhere in the area of 70-80 million and could do what AJ/Klit did to achieve this

I could be way off base and really just going off previous numbers but honestly think the fight could easily generate 100 mil and that’s being conservative maybe I think the fight is bigger then it actually is Indont I know

It's a big fight for sure, but I am skeptical it makes 100 million myself.

As a boxing fan it's huge, but we will need casuals to buy it also. It is worthy of good sales but since AJ is a Brit and had 400k viewers on a replay, and Wilder has 1.2 Mil viewers for free, I can't see 500k being achieved at $70-80 or whatever the rate is these days.

I mean Hearn valued the US TV rights for Whyte as 1 mil. He offered Wilder to fight Whyte 3 mil and us TV rights which he said is about 1 mil. Wilder isn't famous where I feel he would generate that much PPV and AJ certainly isn't known there.

[PensionKiller]

I already stated in another post that if they start a hour or so later then they usually do in London the main event would start around 7 pm Eastern time ( a time that isn’t uncommin for major sporting events to start ) and 4 pm pacific

And I’d like to believe the biggest fight in the HW division in 15 years featuring 2 unbeaten prime , high KO % HWs for all the straps could outsell a GGg/ Lemieux PPV in the States a fight that no one wanted as a PPV

I maybe wrong but don’t think the 200k - 500k is being unrealistic. Come on man 50k that’s Crawford / Postol #s this PPV would surely eclipse that

Even at 50 million take home it generates somewhere in the area of 70-80 million and could do what AJ/Klit did to achieve this

I could be way off base and really just going off previous numbers but honestly think the fight could easily generate 100 mil and that’s being conservative maybe I think the fight is bigger then it actually is Indont I know

Promoters only take 45% of US PPV.
10% Distributor and 45% Cable companies.

So whatever the PPV sales are, we need to realise that 45% of it is only shared.

AJ is not getting paid 70/80 Mil as some have been saying. How many boxers in the history of the sport has made that in one fight?

[R_Walken]

It's a big fight for sure, but I am skeptical it makes 100 million myself.

As a boxing fan it's huge, but we will need casuals to buy it also. It is worthy of good sales but since AJ is a Brit and had 400k viewers on a replay, and Wilder has 1.2 Mil viewers for free, I can't see 500k being achieved at $70-80 or whatever the rate is these days.

I mean Hearn valued the US TV rights for Whyte as 1 mil. He offered Wilder to fight Whyte 3 mil and us TV rights which he said is about 1 mil. Wilder isn't famous where I feel he would generate that much PPV and AJ certainly isn't known there.

I honestly have no idea what a Us PPV would bring #s wise

But I do disagree with you as far as Wilders appeal. He may draw 1-1.1 million on showtime with a subscription base of 26 million that’s a pretty decent % of subscribers watching when he fights and doesn’t include people who stream his fights . He also draws 2-3 million when he fights on Fox and in the last 3 years his fights are always among the most most watched fights so while boxing is a niche sport in the states a case can be made he may be America’s biggest boxing star at the moment

Promoters only take 45% of US PPV.
10% Distributor and 45% Cable companies.

So whatever the PPV sales are, we need to realise that 45% of it is only shared.

AJ is not getting paid 70/80 Mil as some have been saying. How many boxers in the history of the sport has made that in one fight?

Agree

I don’t think the take home after it’s all said and done is a 100 million and don’t believe AJ takes home 80

But even at 1/2 that which is probably pretty low end it’s still a lower % then Parker got and in line with what a Mando would get.

But I don’t think Hearn presented a fair offer that he wanted to be accepted with a flat rate. Especially when you consider he was willing to give Parker a % and doesn’t seem to be interested in giving Wilder a % which will be a far bigger fight.

[PensionKiller]

I honestly have no idea what a Us PPV would bring #s wise

But I do disagree with you as far as Wilders appeal. He may draw 1-1.1 million on showtime with a subscription base of 26 million that’s a pretty decent % of subscribers watching when he fights and doesn’t include people who stream his fights . He also draws 2-3 million when he fights on Fox and in the last 3 years his fights are always among the most most watched fights so while boxing is a niche sport in the states a case can be made he may be America’s biggest boxing star at the moment





Agree

I don’t think the take home after it’s all said and done is a 100 million and don’t believe AJ takes home 80

But even at 1/2 that which is probably pretty low end it’s still a lower % then Parker got and in line with what a Mando would get.

But I don’t think Hearn presented a fair offer that he wanted to be accepted with a flat rate. Especially when you consider he was willing to give Parker a % and doesn’t seem to be interested in giving Wilder a % which will be a far bigger fight.

My point on the ratings is that I don't think AJ has much appeal in the US and Wilder is not a PPV boxer and with the ratings, I am not confident he would sell a fight at a rate of 500k. 1 or 2 mil PPV is pretty much unheard of for a first PPV (That isn't headlined by a star already in the US) as far as I am aware unless you know anyone.

I predict AJ takes home about 30 Mil because of the others cuts but that is a guess too.

For example Oscar didn't even take 80 mil vs Floyd. He made 52 Mil... that fight sold 2.4 mil from my memory

Highest record before that was a purse for Tyson and Holyfield at 35 mil each.