Comments Thread For: Team Wilder Plan Counter To $12.5 Million Flat Fee For Joshua

[cameltoe]

You don't think there is a discernable difference between what's said to the media before real negotiations start and what is said DURING negotiations between the two negotiating parties?

No, I think it’s more a case of if Wilder does it, it’s ‘negotiating’. If Joshua does it, it’s ‘ducking’.

Leaving aside the fact that Hearn is the only one who has really made any effort to try and get the fight made. All we hear from Wilder’s side is complaining through the media. I’m struggling to recall a time where I’ve heard his team do anything proactive to try and get the fight made.

Yeah the offer isn’t fantastic, but Hearn has said all along they don’t think Wilder is serious about this fight.

Hearn knows what he is doing by chucking out this offer.

Wilder is already going to be fighting Breazeale next anyway so just posturing on his part.

[Ake-Dawg]

So Wilder has made just under $1 million per fight the majority of his defences, but in his last fight made almost $2 million. Those figures translate to £700,000 and £1.4 million. But suddenly he is deserving of how much? Suddenly you believe he is generating how much money? Meanwhile, in his last fight AJ made more (in one purse) than Wilder has made in his whole pro career.

Ok. How about this. Why not give Joshua the flat fee of $30M (approximately what he made vs Parker) and give Wilder the rest? It sounds ridiculous to me but it follows your logic. That way, Wilder gets all the money that is attributed to him.

[P4Pdunny]

if I was Wilder I'd take this. It may have been an offer that they expected to get turned down but take it and if you win your star power is through the roof.

[Ake-Dawg]

Yea, I'd love it if Wilder's people just accepted the offer without a complaint. The reality is, everyone knows Wilder has a 50/50 chance in this fight. Hearn will be terrified of his cashcow getting annihilated. I think Wilder's people are playing into Hearn's hands by making it all about the split. They're allowing them to draw negotiations out, while making Wilder look like a dummy in the media. Once the opening bell goes all this media slander becomes irrelevant. What's more important to Wilder, crushing his biggest rival and gaining the star power he's always wanted, or potentially losing the fight for another 2-3 years, over a couple of extra millions? Providing he wins, he'll likely be making at least a few hundred million before he retires anyway.

What's more important to Joshua? Making money or becoming undisputed unified champion? Ensuring this fight gets made and beating Wilder makes him an international star and leads to even greater pursues and the Mayweather status that said he is chasing after.

[Ray*]

Ok. How about this. Why not give Joshua the flat fee of $30M (approximately what he made vs Parker) and give Wilder the rest? It sounds ridiculous to me but it follows your logic. That way, Wilder gets all the money that is attributed to him.

That logic would mean giving AJ $120m, four times what he would usually make.

[Ray*]

What's more important to Joshua? Making money or becoming undisputed unified champion? Ensuring this fight gets made and beating Wilder makes him an international star and leads to even greater pursues and the Mayweather status that said he is chasing after.

He is already an international star. He is one of the face of American products like Dre beat, Armour and countless of UK products. He also has 3 of the 4 recognised belt. He has only 21 fights under his belt, in another 15 fights if he stay undefeated he can attain that Mayweather status whilst just fighting here like Mayweather did with Vegas.

[Removed Now]

That is type crazy, talk about an low ball. I would take them offer if it came with a KO clause. If won by KO. You get 10% raise .

[Ake-Dawg]

No, I think it’s more a case of if Wilder does it, it’s ‘negotiating’. If Joshua does it, it’s ‘ducking’.

Leaving aside the fact that Hearn is the only one who has really made any effort to try and get the fight made. All we hear from Wilder’s side is complaining through the media. I’m struggling to recall a time where I’ve heard his team do anything proactive to try and get the fight made.

Yeah the offer isn’t fantastic, but Hearn has said all along they don’t think Wilder is serious about this fight.

Hearn knows what he is doing by chucking out this offer.

Wilder is already going to be fighting Breazeale next anyway so just posturing on his part.

Oh I agree with you. The question is, is he negotiating in good faith, or trying to scuttle the fight. I really think he wants at least 1 more fight before fighting Wilder. Remember when Joshua's trainer said that the Klitschko fight was 3 fights too soon. How many fights has it been since he said that?

[Redgloveman]

That is type crazy, talk about an low ball. I would take them offer if it came with a KO clause. If won by KO. You get 10% raise .

So you're saying it's a crazy low-ball offer but you would take it?

I'm interested to see what Wilder & co. do personally.

[Ake-Dawg]

He is already an international star. He is one of the face of American products like Dre beat, Armour and countless of UK products. He also has 3 of the 4 recognised belt. He has only 21 fights under his belt, in another 15 fights if he stay undefeated he can attain that Mayweather status whilst just fighting here like Mayweather did with Vegas.

I get where you're going, but having an endorsement deal with an international company doesn't make you an international star. Especially when that don't use your likeness in the other countries.

Fact 1: Joshua does not appear in Beats by Dre or Under Armour commericals in the U.S.

Fact 2: Joshua fights get poor viewership on Showtime in the U.S.

So which of those 15 fights are going to be against Wilder?