Comments Thread For: Team Wilder Plan Counter To $12.5 Million Flat Fee For Joshua

[Ake-Dawg]

Didn’t Wilder say “50% or no fight?”

Let me guess, he wasn’t being unreasonable there though....

You don't think there is a discernable difference between what's said to the media before real negotiations start and what is said DURING negotiations between the two negotiating parties?

[The Westerner]

His best ever payday that we know of is $5.2 million.

man, i think his highest pay is around 2 million, maybe u can prove me wrong if u bring true facts bro

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

The fight would make around $100m .If the flat 'take it or leave it'offer is $12.5m then Hearn & A.J. are worst than even I thought.

The only way this makes any sense would be for the 'rematch' to be reversed financially and why then would A.J. take a fight of such magnitude for £8.8m when he earns £15-20m per fight.

Eddie Hearn should never have the monopoly on Sky tv as their only promoter because of this he is now empowered to call the shots up and down the division and take the least chances possible.You still get A.J making massive money as he's sold mainstream but you won't get the real fights.

I understand why A.J. is the only one who doesn't boo Hearn at shows !

How the **** does this generate 100 mill?

[DougalDylan]

It was 2.25 million for Ortiz though most suspect he gets some additional cash hidden away in US fights.

The other figure quoted 4.5 million is what he would have got for fighting Povetkin in Russia. Povetkins team were buying the belt similar to C Martin fight so massively over paying. The fight never happened but Wilder won (i think) the court case and got most of the money (maybe).

So you could argue both figures and be correct as with most banter here.

PS Arguing this is a 100 million fight and then basing a percentage on it is ridiculous go ask your accountant.

Even if you think you knew the value of the fight the equivalent flat fee trumps the percentage because there is no risk with the flat fee.

man, i think his highest pay is around 2 million, maybe u can prove me wrong if u bring true facts bro

[KnickTillDeaTh]

It was 2.25 million for Ortiz though most suspect he gets some additional cash hidden away in US fights.

The other figure quoted 4.5 million is what he would have got for fighting Povetkin in Russia. Povetkins team were buying the belt similar to C Martin fight so massively over paying. The fight never happened but Wilder won (i think) the court case and got most of the money (maybe).

So you could argue both figures and be correct as with most banter here.

PS Arguing this is a 100 million fight and then basing a percentage on it is ridiculous go ask your accountant.

Even if you think you knew the value of the fight the equivalent flat fee trumps the percentage because there is no risk with the flat fee.

Actually Povetkins promoter won the purse bid, and the amount of money that Wilder was offered was due to the WBC rules on purse splits. The reason why Wilder was offered so much was because Povetkins people wanted the fight to happen on their home turf, so they had to to bid extremely high to beat out showtime/PBC.

[soul_survivor]

LOL does anyone disagree Hearn DOESN'T wanna make this fight now? This is how you make an offer to some 5th rate opponent not the #2 guy in your division. Fair play doe Wilder said what he said so as long as Hearn included the reverse stipulation upon a Wilder win I'd bet ANYTHING Wilder signs the deal.

If Hearn didn't include that & I'd bet he didn't then maybe it don't get signed now who knows. I just know I like Hearn's ability to put on shows, but I hate when he plays Arum games with "making a fight bigger" or just outright putting fights off cuz they are too risky to doo now.

How is this offer (if true) bad for Wilder? Did you actually read the article or just the headline?

From the article itself, regardless of an AJ win, the next fight is to be negotiated at a 50-50 level and the rematch clause states Wilder will have that in the US. That's a win/win for Wilder, in fact, it is absolutely everything Wilder wanted. He is the one that stated he would accept everything AJ throws at him, as long as he can get the same in return.

To top it all off, Wilder will be getting paid $10 million dollars more than his biggest ever pay day....ten million dollars. That is huge for a guy who has never been a draw, is unknown beyond hardcore boxing circles, isn't endorsed by multiple brands and has never been on PPV in his entire career.

Golovkin only received $3million more against Canelo and GGG is a much better known brand, by a considerable distance.

Plus, constant mention of how much the fight is meant to generate is idiotic. The £60-75 million quoted in this article is not all about the fighters. TV companies, promoters, managers and various other organisers will be taking from the pie.

In fact, for anyone who even has a passing interest in the sport, they know the fighter's purses and event revenue are two entirely separate en******. Whether or not AJ or Wilder get a slice of the revenue (as May/Pac did) is up for discussion but that hasn't been mentioned as of yet.

[Ake-Dawg]

I love the argument that Parker was overpaid and Wilder shouldn't be. What it essentially says is that UK fans are okay with overpaying a fighter as long as the fight is easy. You would think that as boxing fans they would want the better fighter to be over paid to ensure that they got the opportunity to see that fight.

So why pay less for the fight that Joshua and UK fans wants more?

[IMDAZED]

The take it or leave it part is baffling.

[W1LL]

I think $12.5 million, if true, is a good offer. Considering Deontay Wilder has never made more than $2 million, how is it a bad offer? Without Anthony Joshua, Wilder can go back to making $1 million per fight against no-hopers the rest of his career. Those saying it's a $100 million fight aren't taking into account the other costs that will take away from that figure. Joshua won't be getting $88 million... possibly maybe $40-60 million. But, even so, if AJ is making double or triple what he usually makes, what's wrong with that? Wilder is making over six times his highest payday! How is it fair if Wilder is given say... $25 million, that would be over twelve times higher than his highest payday. Whereas AJ would then earn $30-45 million, which equates to maybe one and a half to double his biggest payday.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

How is this offer (if true) bad for Wilder? Did you actually read the article or just the headline?

From the article itself, regardless of an AJ win, the next fight is to be negotiated at a 50-50 level and the rematch clause states Wilder will have that in the US. That's a win/win for Wilder, in fact, it is absolutely everything Wilder wanted. He is the one that stated he would accept everything AJ throws at him, as long as he can get the same in return.

To top it all off, Wilder will be getting paid $10 million dollars more than his biggest ever pay day....ten million dollars. That is huge for a guy who has never been a draw, is unknown beyond hardcore boxing circles, isn't endorsed by multiple brands and has never been on PPV in his entire career.

Golovkin only received $3million more against Canelo and GGG is a much better known brand, by a considerable distance.

Plus, constant mention of how much the fight is meant to generate is idiotic. The £60-75 million quoted in this article is not all about the fighters. TV companies, promoters, managers and various other organisers will be taking from the pie.

In fact, for anyone who even has a passing interest in the sport, they know the fighter's purses and event revenue are two entirely separate en******. Whether or not AJ or Wilder get a slice of the revenue (as May/Pac did) is up for discussion but that hasn't been mentioned as of yet.

Maybe the offer is bad because Parker made an estimated 13 million. Parker who is far less popular than Wilder, makes less money than Wilder, and Parker doesn't bring a new audience with US PPV buys. Parker who AJ would make less money against compared to a fight with Wilder. 1 US PPV purchase is worth about 4 skysport purchases, I'm still waiting for someone to explain how AJ is entitled to all that new American revenue and Wilder is not. Especially when you understand that Wilder is the sole reason for this event being on US PPV.