Comments Thread For: Team Wilder Plan Counter To $12.5 Million Flat Fee For Joshua

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I think $12.5 million, if true, is a good offer. Considering Deontay Wilder has never made more than $2 million, how is it a bad offer? Without Anthony Joshua, Wilder can go back to making $1 million per fight against no-hopers the rest of his career. Those saying it's a $100 million fight aren't taking into account the other costs that will take away from that figure. Joshua won't be getting $88 million... possibly maybe $40-60 million. But, even so, if AJ is making double or triple what he usually makes, what's wrong with that? Wilder is making over six times his highest payday! How is it fair if Wilder is given say... $25 million, that would be over twelve times higher than his highest payday. Whereas AJ would then earn $30-45 million, which equates to maybe one and a half to double his biggest payday.

Explain why AJ is entitled to the revenue from US PPV and Wilder is not?

[W1LL]

Explain why AJ is entitled to the revenue from US PPV and Wilder is not?

I think if Deontay Wilder is allowed to treat this fight as his lottery ticket, then Anthony Joshua should also be able to make a big payday from it. Considering who it is who's making the biggest waves, and actually went out of his way to unify the division. AJ should make at least double his biggest payday, that's only fair. Why should he take on the biggest challenge in the division, after doing the same several times already, for the same kinda money he's earned in his previous two fights? Where's the logic in that? Meanwhile, the other guy is making ten to fifteen times more than he's ever made? Talking percentages doesn't work in a fight were one of the participants has been earning peanuts and has no name value.

[W1LL]

This would be like Floyd Mayweather Jr. coming back to fight someone like Mike Alvarado, and people being mad he isn't offering a 60/40 split.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I think if Deontay Wilder is allowed to treat this fight as his lottery ticket, then Anthony Joshua should also be able to make a big payday from it. Considering who it is who's making the biggest waves, and actually went out of his way to unify the division. AJ should make at least double his biggest payday, that's only fair. Why should he take on the biggest challenge in the division, after doing the same several times already, for the same kinda money he's earned in his previous two fights? Where's the logic in that? Meanwhile, the other guy is making ten to fifteen times more than he's ever made? Talking percentages doesn't work in a fight were one of the participants has been earning peanuts and has no name value.

You still haven't answered my question. How is AJ entitled to US PPV and Wilder is not? The reason this fight would be on US PPV is because of Wilder. Wilder is a bigger draw in America than either of the Kitschko's ever were. Wilder who has destroyed AJ's ratings on showtime, by more than double, in some cases almost triple. Wilder who had over 2.5 million people tune in to watch him beat one of those "tomato cans" that all of you love to talk about. And in all this fanager banter that you guys spew over and over, you all miss the fact: AJ's highest payday, only comes if he fights Wilder. So how is AJ entitled to US PPV revenue, and Wilder is not?

[Bronx2245]

Take it or Leave it? Leave it! Sorry Champ (Wilder) I know how much you want this, but this is an insult! Counter with $15 million, "take it or leave it!" Also, make sure they know that Joshua only gets $15 million in a rematch!

[KnickTillDeaTh]

This would be like Floyd Mayweather Jr. coming back to fight someone like Mike Alvarado, and people being mad he isn't offering a 60/40 split.

No it wouldn't be. AJ is no where near Mayweather and the fact that anyone would even suggest proves they are stans/fanagers. AJ hasn't sold a single US PPV. The comparison is mute. But lets use you Mayweather comparison no matter how ****** it is. Mayweather gave fighters smaller splits, but he also let them keep the revenue from their home country. Why doesn't Hearn/AJ want Wilder to keep the money from his country? Americans ain't buying PPV to watch AJ.

[Redgloveman]

I think if Deontay Wilder is allowed to treat this fight as his lottery ticket, then Anthony Joshua should also be able to make a big payday from it. Considering who it is who's making the biggest waves, and actually went out of his way to unify the division. AJ should make at least double his biggest payday, that's only fair. Why should he take on the biggest challenge in the division, after doing the same several times already, for the same kinda money he's earned in his previous two fights? Where's the logic in that? Meanwhile, the other guy is making ten to fifteen times more than he's ever made? Talking percentages doesn't work in a fight were one of the participants has been earning peanuts and has no name value.

You make a good point

[W1LL]

You still haven't answered my question. How is AJ entitled to US PPV and Wilder is not? The reason this fight would be on US PPV is because of Wilder. Wilder is a bigger draw in America than either of the Kitschko's ever were. Wilder who has destroyed AJ's ratings on showtime, by more than double, in some cases almost triple. Wilder who had over 2.5 million people tune in to watch him beat one of those "tomato cans" that all of you love to talk about. And in all this fanager banter that you guys spew over and over, you all miss the fact: AJ's highest payday, only comes if he fights Wilder. So how is AJ entitled to US PPV revenue, and Wilder is not?

I did answer your question. A small percentage of the US PPV is more than Deontay Wilder's biggest payday. Whereas the full US PPV money is a fraction of AJ's last payday.

[Redgloveman]

You still haven't answered my question. How is AJ entitled to US PPV and Wilder is not? The reason this fight would be on US PPV is because of Wilder. Wilder is a bigger draw in America than either of the Kitschko's ever were. Wilder who has destroyed AJ's ratings on showtime, by more than double, in some cases almost triple. Wilder who had over 2.5 million people tune in to watch him beat one of those "tomato cans" that all of you love to talk about. And in all this fanager banter that you guys spew over and over, you all miss the fact: AJ's highest payday, only comes if he fights Wilder. So how is AJ entitled to US PPV revenue, and Wilder is not?

I like Wilder a lot, but he's never been on pay-per-view, so it's impossible to make a reasonable argument as to what he would bring to the table. Any speculative estimates from Wilder's side used to make an argument as to what he could expect to make via PPV would be given short shrift by Hearn in contract negotiations (and rightly so, from a business stand point)

This weakens his position substantially. From Hearn's point of view it's the perfect time to make the fight from a pure profit perspective.

Wilder stands to gain massively more from winning this fight than AJ would. AJ is already the money man in the division, if Wilder wins he can take that mantle. So I'd like to see him counter-offer with something that isn't miles away from this offer.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I did answer your question. A small percentage of the US PPV is more than Deontay Wilder's biggest payday. Whereas the full US PPV money is a fraction of AJ's last payday.

REALLY? AJ's last pay day was estimated at 20million pounds. 1 US PPV purchase is Worth about 4 Skysport's purchases. I'm interested in seeing how you came up with that math.