Why is GGG still waiting on Canelo and not trying to unify?

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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #31
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    cotto vs canelo- big payday for cotto...not a bad one for canelo=both ******* for this
    canelo vs khan-big payday for canelo...low risk=canelo a *****
    golovkin-big risk for canelo coming up weight against a legit and career MW=canelo a *****

    but the minute golovkin ducks a high risk fight its just common sense and good business sense
    I have no clue what you're saying.

    Cotto or Canelo were the mandatory for GGG.
    GGG wasn't the mandatory for neither Ward, Froch or Chavez Jr. He would be voluntarily moving up to fight any of the 3.

    Cotto was already fighting at MW. He had the title and had another defense before the Canelo fight.

    So in short, they did exactly what GGG said he'd do in moving up for big money fights but not fighting the best guy in the division. Difference is, GGG never went to 168 at all. Cotto was the champion and Canelo was fighting at his own made up weight then at 164 before they'd fight GGG.

    Guys like you wanted GGG to jump up and immediately fight Ward but he could have fought 2 other guys same as Cotto or Canelo then Ward and it would have been no different. Money fights first then the toughest challenge.

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    • Jsmooth9876
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      #32
      Originally posted by mvooom
      I do get it.

      I would fight Chavez and Froch then tell Ward flat out to build up his stock if he wants to get in the ring with me but I won't hide behind my love for belts.

      The belt excuse is one he is still using till today. In January when it seemed like Canelo was going after Saunders Lemieux winner, GGG suddenly wanted the WBO belt again, telling the press non stop but the moment Canelo backed off, he was chilled with not having the belt. C'mon, WTF!
      GGG is one or two fights away from owning the title defense record and one win against Saunders away from being undisputed champion. That's got to be a career goal for him. I know it would be for me, but getting that 15-20 million payday would have to be a big factor considering hes 36 with really no other big fights close to that valuable

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      • Curt Henning
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        #33
        Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
        I have no clue what you're saying.

        Cotto or Canelo were the mandatory for GGG.
        GGG wasn't the mandatory for neither Ward, Froch or Chavez Jr. He would be voluntarily moving up to fight any of the 3.

        Cotto was already fighting at MW. He had the title and had another defense before the Canelo fight.

        So in short, they did exactly what GGG said he'd do in moving up for big money fights but not fighting the best guy in the division. Difference is, GGG never went to 168 at all, Cotto was the champion and Canelo was fighting at his own made up weight then at 164 before they'd fight GGG.

        Guys like you wanted GGG to jump up and immediately fight Ward but he could have fought 2 other guys same as Cotto or Canelo then Ward and it would have been no different. Money fights first then the toughest challenge.
        you know exactly what i said......you understand it...youre just in denial

        mando this and mando that....mandos are great to hide behind when you dont want a bigger fight(ie look at what joshua is talking).....mandos are meaningless and it was shown when cotto and canelo avoided them and still had money fights

        when golovkins ducked ward it was the best fight he could have ever made.......he did it to chase a guy that had 0 wins against MWs.....

        golovkin was chasing a guy that won a title at a CW from a guy that wont it at a CW from a one legged cripple(not my words...words of many others)

        when cotto and canelo made money decisions(which involved golovkin taking money to make those fights) they were pansies.....but not the great lil g....hes just making smart decisions

        big tough guy ATG that talks 168 and even had his trainer barking "we can beat anyone at 175 right now"....hasnt even gone up once....couldnt go up for one fight against a top p4p fighter who is featherfisted but can fight welterweights and jr mws....

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        • Raonic
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          #34
          Canelo fight more money and there's unfinished business.

          I do wish he fought BJS in June instead but can't blame him if he wants to fight in May still.

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          • Jsmooth9876
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            #35
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            you know exactly what i said......you understand it...youre just in denial

            mando this and mando that....mandos are great to hide behind when you dont want a bigger fight(ie look at what joshua is talking).....mandos are meaningless and it was shown when cotto and canelo avoided them and still had money fights

            when golovkins ducked ward it was the best fight he could have ever made.......he did it to chase a guy that had 0 wins against MWs.....

            golovkin was chasing a guy that won a title at a CW from a guy that wont it at a CW from a one legged cripple(not my words...words of many others)

            when cotto and canelo made money decisions(which involved golovkin taking money to make those fights) they were pansies.....but not the great lil g....hes just making smart decisions

            big tough guy ATG that talks 168 and even had his trainer barking "we can beat anyone at 175 right now"....hasnt even gone up once....couldnt go up for one fight against a top p4p fighter who is featherfisted but can fight welterweights and jr mws....
            Yeah ok. He's gonna move up and fight Ward while he's sitting on a goldmine mandatory for a fight vs Cotto or Canelo. You're delusional my man. Ward moved up and fought a few other guys before Kovalev. Would you have been fine with GGG going up and fighting other guys at 168 first? Highly doubtful.

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            • Curt Henning
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              #36
              Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
              Yeah ok. He's gonna move up and fight Ward while he's sitting on a goldmine mandatory for a fight vs Cotto or Canelo. You're delusional my man. Ward moved up and fought a few other guys before Kovalev. Would you have been fine with GGG going up and fighting other guys at 168 first? Highly doubtful.
              he kept sitting on that goldmine for well over a year...he was so starved for a decent name fight and money that he fought a welterweight(after telling canelo he was a pansy for it)....in 2016 when he could have been fighting ward he fought dom wade and a welter.......

              ward actually suggested golovkin take a tuneup at 168 before they fought...wards suggestion was both take an early 2016 168 fight and then do it.....that was pretty fair.....golovkins resume was pretty weak at that point...still kind of is considering jacobs is his only real win that anyone rates

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              • BoxingIsGreat
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                #37
                Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                Because Tom Loeffler is the worst promoter in the game.

                GGG should fire him.
                I totally agree with you here. I've been saying that for a long time, with some GGG fans getting so mad at me. Lol..

                Loeffler really sucks and is responsible for the current GGG situation.

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                • The D3vil
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  see my post below your last one

                  canelo lineal huh? great

                  he won the belt at a CW from a guy that won the belt at a CW against a guy everyone called a cripple
                  So what, still the lineal belt is the lineal belt.

                  It's the most prestigious belt in boxing

                  Originally posted by j.razor
                  Fight bums all your career then have one or two pay-days then retire? I guess if nothing else matters then yes. Should just retire now if that's the case.
                  Hey, you can't make people fight you who don't want to fight you.

                  Nobody wanted to fight GGG in his prime, that's not his fault.

                  Jacobs needed "tune up fights"

                  Canelo needed "tune up fights"

                  Cotto ducked him.

                  I love how guys bring up him not fighting a too big Andre Ward as if not fighting people outside of your weight division is somehow you ducking them.

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                  • j0zef
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                    #39
                    I agree, it's getting ridiculous. They need to stop saying that. If Canelo fight happens in Sept, great, we all would love to see it. But Loeffler keeps talking like a puppet on GBP's strings. They look like idiots.

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      it always cracks me up when ggg fans defend him by calling canelo lineal

                      greatttttttttt

                      so the lineal MW champ won the belt at a cw from a guy that wont it at a cw from a guy that everyone said had one leg and was cripple

                      listen....floyd whitewashed canelo...floyd is a featherfisted welter.....miguel cotto is a career prime welter who at best is a jr mw.....think about it for a minute.......think about what youre actually saying.....
                      Floyd-Canelo was at a catchweight. You failed to mention that.

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