Comments Thread For: Joshua To Wilder: Stop Whining, Take Deal We're About To Offer

[Butch.McRae]

You must have missed the Ali/Frazier fights ....

I was thinking that too, but I get his point lol

[youbeight]

looking forward to this fight getting closer to be made, I would say Vegas should be considered for the first fight. they would pay more than Wembley to secure this fight and it would be easy money for Hearn. hes still getting the sky ppv and it'll be us ppv here which could do around a solid 600k-700k imo.

[The plunger man]

You got told he was ducking because Joshua has been running his mouth like this forever, and Hearn always steps in and makes it clear that he wants to milk Joshua with as many easy fights as possible before facing the 1 guy that can actually beat him.

With that said, I don't like one over the other but Wilder is more entertaining as a fighter and I absolutely want to see these 2 go at it.

Joshua fought scared vs Parker, he wanted nothing to do with him any time he got within reach. He will not have that luxury against Wilder who has longer reach and will be throwing bombs straight up the middle all night long.

here is me thinking that ortiz was outjabbing wilder all night plus wilder does not fight long and simply relies on his looping right hand.
Add that to wilders bad balance and ajs technical counters and i see another charles martin right hand on the chin.

[The plunger man]

looking forward to this fight getting closer to be made, I would say Vegas should be considered for the first fight. they would pay more than Wembley to secure this fight and it would be easy money for Hearn. hes still getting the sky ppv and it'll be us ppv here which could do around a solid 600k-700k imo.

no way will joshua risk another ortiz 30 second gift from the ref.....joshua holds the aces and he knows where he feels more at home...that outweighs any bonus from vegas

[youbeight]

no way will joshua risk another ortiz 30 second gift from the ref.....joshua holds the aces and he knows where he feels more at home...that outweighs any bonus from vegas

so that only happens in NYSAC since mike Perez turned magmodev into a vegetable and it cost them $25mill. and the ref breaking the fight to allow the doc to examine guys has been happening since fellow brit James DeGale got the same treatment vs Badou Jack when jack knocked out his mouth piece in round 8 and took a beating, the ref stopped before round 9 to examine degale. it also took place in the berto vs porter fight and the spence vs Peterson fight. its the commission not getting lawsuits. I think you should do more research before clinging to conspiracies. plus, Hearn is Joshua promoter. one of the two fights will be here, and Hearn knows Vegas would outbid any venue.

[The plunger man]

I doubt Hearn is being honest about that number for the Parker fight, the 1.5 vs wlad was also a pretty solid projection even before the number was revealed due to the early orders. will say though 90k sellout on 8mill gate for Joshua is type weak imo. a smaller venue with larger ticket $$ would see him beat that gate number. while stadiums are great for atmosphere and etc, the average ticker price and live gate is usually trash.

You could not buy a joshua klitchcko ticket for under £350 last year....stub hub were secondary sellers and doubled and trebled the ticket prices so people when this fight happens will have to pay out big money.....i know because i tried and couod not get one for under £350 and was in the gods as well

[Butch.McRae]

here is me thinking that ortiz was outjabbing wilder all night plus wilder does not fight long and simply relies on his looping right hand.
Add that to wilders bad balance and ajs technical counters and i see another charles martin right hand on the chin.

You need to watch some tape buddy. Wilder definitely fights at distance and is very quick to counter when the other guy gets baited off that jab. He got rid of Ortiz with a counter right hand that was brilliant after Ortiz carelessly/agressively threw a 1-1-1-2-3.

He's knocked out a few guys that way. If AJ gets caught too aggressive, he's going to get clipped with something that'll be definitive.

[youbeight]

You could not buy a joshua klitchcko ticket for under £350 last year....stub hub were secondary sellers and doubled and trebled the ticket prices so people when this fight happens will have to pay out big money.....i know because i tried and couod not get one for under £350 and was in the gods as well

thats fine, you can talk about that. but you also have to consider that stubhub purchased these tickets from Hearn and original buyers from the venue. the resell means nothing to the official gate bc the venue doesn't get that money back, the seller do. so while it might have been extremely expensive to get the ticket second hand, its a drastic markup from the initial value. its like buying a sneaker from a store and reselling it. if the store gets $160 for that pair, and you resell it for $400, the store doesn't claim the $220 that was made off it. Joshua 90k live gate came out to 8 mill in total. which meant the venue average price they offered to ppl when releasing tickets was around 90 pounds each.

[The plunger man]

so that only happens in NYSAC since mike Perez turned magmodev into a vegetable and it cost them $25mill. and the ref breaking the fight to allow the doc to examine guys has been happening since fellow brit James DeGale got the same treatment vs Badou Jack when jack knocked out his mouth piece in round 8 and took a beating, the ref stopped before round 9 to examine degale. it also took place in the berto vs porter fight and the spence vs Peterson fight. its the commission not getting lawsuits. I think you should do more research before clinging to conspiracies. plus, Hearn is Joshua promoter. one of the two fights will be here, and Hearn knows Vegas would outbid any venue.

Fighers do not get assessed at the start of a new round....they should get checked out during the break and if they are not fit to continue then it should be stopped....stopping a fight to check on a fighter should not be done to allow a fighter more time...what planet you on....its boxing and its about stopping your opponent its not netball...ffs even malagnaggi said yiu cannot do that ..wilder was not cut and did not have teeth removed from his mouth...he was hurt at the end of the round had a full minute to recover and then the ref gave him even more seconds to recover.....its not in the rules

[thack]

here is me thinking that ortiz was outjabbing wilder all night plus wilder does not fight long and simply relies on his looping right hand.
Add that to wilders bad balance and ajs technical counters and i see another charles martin right hand on the chin.

I'm not sure that AJ. would get away with his guard being penetrated by Wilders fast looping unorthodox hooks/swings for long but then as you say AJ's technical counters could also end it.

Top aggro...!