Comments Thread For: Trainer: Wilder is World's Biggest Puncher, Nobody Hits Harder

[EL_GRINGO]

Yeah cool, but we saw Wilder buzzed by Washington?

I missed the bit where AJ got buzzed by Parker.

If I’m totally honest, I think both have average chins and are capable of putting each other down.

yes i think joshua has power too and can definitly put wilder down too

[sportbuddha]

Well he fought with his hands down quite a bit so there's nothing technical about that.

I don't know if he was necessarily comparing him with Wilder. I thinks he was trying to say you don't have to be technical to be a good boxer. Wilder gets knocked for his "windmill" punches when he's going in for the kill but he also has a good foundation and a lot of power that has carried him so far. You don't beat Stiverne (the first fight) and Ortiz without having a good foundation.
I don't know if Vitali is widely regarded as the better boxer but I personally think he's the better boxer. I can't say he's better technically than Vladimir but he is more technical than Wilder and a lot of HWs in the past 10 years. He doesn't have one punch power like Wilder but his jabs were powerful and caused a lot of damage.

Fair enough, I suppose you could say the coach wasn’t drawing a direct comparison, like you say, pointing out that Wilder’s is a style rather than flaws.

I would tend to disagree with him on that though, I think Wilders style is a bit wayward at times and I don’t think he has the range awareness of someone like a B-hop or an RJJ who could basically just drop their hands whenever they wanted or set elaborate traps. To me they look like bad habits and Ortiz did find him out a few times because of it.

[Biolink]

Agreed and its gonna take AJ's head off

[Pennsauken1]

Are you serious dude?

I know you want to see the Wilder fight- we all do- but don’t bring AJ’s resume into the argument, that’s not a conversation you’re ever going to win as a Wilder fan.

If I even have to bother replying to you to explain why that is, I might as well explain it to my dog, as he’d probably understand it better.

Hey Cameo, no one is talking about resumes buddy, we are talking about you hyped up Britian fraud champ finally step up and fight any of the guys I mentioned instead of fighting guys like Takum, Parker, or ***** Whyte, read a little clearer idiot!!!!

[HarvardBlue]

I would tend to disagree with him on that though, I think Wilders style is a bit wayward at times and I don’t think he has the range awareness of someone like a B-hop or an RJJ who could basically just drop their hands whenever they wanted or set elaborate traps. To me they look like bad habits and Ortiz did find him out a few times because of it.

Not too many boxers could do what Hopkins or Roy did. I tend to agree with you about Wilder's style. But I think he developed that "wayward" style because of his confidence in his right hands. I refer the first Stiverne fight and Ortiz because I think in those two fights he showed what he's capable of. He fought a smart fight against both fighters. Ortiz caught him because he's a good fighter. Stiverne wasn't a bad fighter but Wilder was a lot better and got the win.

[The Westerner]

no doubt wilder is a good puncher. his rocket right hand is the best and heaviest i have seen for now, but joshua throws the heaviest combinations. dont be blind **** peeps...

[The Westerner]

As a boxing fan not emotionally invested in either of these fighters mean Wilder and Joshua,
-Wilder hit's hardest off all boxers now,if he connects good,it's over simple as that
-Joshua's technique obviously better
-wilder has a better chin
-Joshua has resume
-wilder has reach and height advantage what makes it dangerous and difficult for joshua to take risks, especially because he seems a little chinny to me
-normally you would expect Joshua to win but all the other intangibles makes this 50/50 for me

and my friend, i dont think Wilder has a better chin than joshua, they are the same to me. Did u watch the wilder..ortiz match???

[hugh grant]

Knock takkam out then I might believe wilder. Wilder wants people to think he hits hardest. Don’t mind being outboxed as long as he kos you.

[The Westerner]

no doubt wilder is a good puncher. his rocket right hand is the best and heaviest i have seen for now, but joshua throws the heaviest combinations. dont be blind **** peeps...

or maybe am wrong, its easy to knock out bums with one punch.

[sportbuddha]

Not too many boxers could do what Hopkins or Roy did. I tend to agree with you about Wilder's style. But I think he developed that "wayward" style because of his confidence in his right hands. I refer the first Stiverne fight and Ortiz because I think in those two fights he showed what he's capable of. He fought a smart fight against both fighters. Ortiz caught him because he's a good fighter. Stiverne wasn't a bad fighter but Wilder was a lot better and got the win.

I’ll admit Wilder has got better, his boxing is improving. I’m not that sold on the quality of Stiverne, awkward and durable at his best, but a little bit in decline by the time Wilder fought him.

Ortiz I just don’t get the fuss about. He is solid and I am sure once he was able to deliver the athleticism with the obvious skill, but nowadays he is very old and his record is simply weak, so for him to be touted as the test that Wilder is at the level was a bit of a stretch.

I think the the Whyte idea was fair contest and real leveller. Either him or Parker to build AJ, it would answer all the critics and take him into the AJ fight even.