Which past HW's are comparable to modern HW's?

[Cutthroat]

Like Wilder, AJ, Ortiz?

So far I've heard comparisons ranging from Bruno, Grant, Biggs, etc. and they've all been waaaaay off. It's like they get lumped into every tall/muscled HW.

Bruno for example was compared to AJ. Bruno had been KO'd twice by guys not known for their power while AJ has eaten clean power shots from guys known for their power. AJ is also much bigger.

I've also seen Biggs/Grant compared to Wilder. Grant was slow as hell and had arguably lost to a severely undersized part time southpaw named Jeff Wooden. Biggs' KO ratio was half of what Wilder's is and prior to fighting Tyson, his last 5 opponents' record was 78-34, Wilder's is 206-13 or something like that in title fights.


What about Ortiz? Southpaws his size are rare. Moorer, a small, blown up 223lb LHW KO'd by old Foreman in 1 punch, arguably losing to Euro level Schulz? Sanders who'd been KO'd by Rahman/Tubbs? What about 6'3 212lb Jeff Wooden, career lasted a mere 6 years but during that time he was pushing champions like Rahman, Grant to their limits?

I don't see any of them that compare to undefeated 6'4, 240lb, 100% KO ratio, 300+ amateur fights, 20 losses, Ortiz.

[Larry the boss]

The heavies of the past were much more skilled, they were far better boxers..These guys are simple just big, but lack a lot of talent

[McNulty]

Like Wilder, AJ, Ortiz?

My man, Rid**** Bowe would eat them all alive, thats one guy. A lot of B-Level HW's from the past would decimate the division.

The heavies of the past were much more skilled, they were far better boxers..These guys are simple just big, but lack a lot of talent

Nailed it.

[boliodogs]

AJ is a more precision boxer and better than Bruno. Wilder is much faster and better than Grant. I think you are carried away with how good Ortiz is now. He is 38 and pretty slow with a low work rate. Wilder and AJ are respectable champions but I don't think they are as good as the best champions of the past. For one thing they only average throwing a bit over 30 punches a round. Some of the better heavyweight champs of the past averaged close to twice that many punches a round. Prime Marciano and Holyfield could throw up to 100 hard punches a round. 35 punches a round would not beat champions like that. Some of the great heavyweight champs of the past also had iron jaws and would not go down and out from a few Wilder or AJ bombs.

[Redd Foxx]

Bruno for example was compared to AJ. Bruno had been KO'd twice by guys not known for their power while AJ has eaten clean power shots from guys known for their power. AJ is also much bigger.

Huh? AJ has been stunned or wobbled by just about everyone who has landed clean on him. Even Whyte had him dazed. Hell, even David Price dropped him in practice.
I think the Bruno Comparison isn't that far off.

[DreamFighter]

Like Wilder, AJ, Ortiz?

So far I've heard comparisons ranging from Bruno, Grant, Biggs, etc. and they've all been waaaaay off. It's like they get lumped into every tall/muscled HW.

Bruno for example was compared to AJ. Bruno had been KO'd twice by guys not known for their power while AJ has eaten clean power shots from guys known for their power. AJ is also much bigger..

if Brunos best opponent was a 41 year old man, then he'd have the same record as Joshua. But without the gifted title shot.

[W1LL]

Anthony Joshua and Frank Bruno is the only one which comes to mind.

[DreamFighter]

I don't see any of them that compare to undefeated 6'4, 240lb, 100% KO ratio, 300+ amateur fights, 20 losses, Ortiz.

you dont see any fighters of the 80s/90s comparable to Ortiz?

wtf?


also both Iggs and Chaggs, relatively diminutive HW southpaws, took titles off relative giants. Your post is fcuking meaningless.

[Cutthroat]

Huh? AJ has been stunned or wobbled by just about everyone who has landed clean on him. Even Whyte had him dazed. Hell, even David Price dropped him in practice.
I think the Bruno Comparison isn't that far off.

But AJ has never been KO'd, Bruno was put out by 2 guys with 50% KO ratios. AJ survived a heavy assault from Klitchko who hits significantly harder than them, even Whyte has a higher KO ratio than those guys but I think that fight had more to do with inexperience.



There were several times where AJ actually ducked into a Wlad power shot, take 2:20 for example, he ducks into a full power uppercut and then eats a full power left hook, takes it. Bruno, Lewis, Tyson have all been KO'd with lesser punches than that.

[Cutthroat]

you dont see any fighters of the 80s/90s comparable to Ortiz?

wtf?


also both Iggs and Chaggs, relatively diminutive HW southpaws, took titles off relative giants. Your post is fcuking meaningless.

No, Moorer comes closest but he was a blown up LHW, at one point he was 165lbs.