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  • soul_survivor
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    #71
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    In B4 UK Nuthuggers come in here and say that Wilder is ducking Whyte even though they're basically ranked the same


    Ring Magazine:
    Whyte - 6
    Breaz - 8

    IBO:
    Whyte - 7
    Breaz - 5
    LOL Yet the WBC which wilder is champion for has whyte as the number one contender. Yet you bring up some bs from ring and ibo hahahhaa

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    • Rubber Ducky
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      #72
      Wow Wilder going to fight another Haymon fighter, when has that ever happened, oh wait, Duhaupas, Molina, Arreola, Szpilka and Ortiz were all Haymon fighters too, so was Wawrzyk before he got done for doping and so was replaced by Washington.

      Nobody with any brains should be surprised to see Wilder/Breazeale, it fits Wilder's and Haymon's modus operandi. Why fight Whyte for $4-5 mill when you can fight Breazeale for $1.5 mill right. Makes perfect sense in Beyonce land.

      I mean at least Ortiz was more highly rated than Whyte. Breazeale is ranked lower and did worse vs Joshua.

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        #73
        Originally posted by genrick
        I told you, this guy will never behave like the B-side that he is in the AJ fight.
        He's been very uncooperative throughout the entire process.
        He'd rather fight Breazeale for $1 mil, instead of Whyte for $4 mil.
        Plus a guaranteed AJ shot.

        There is no guarantee on the other side of a Whyte fight for Joshua. And if it doesn't bother Wilder if he fights for less money but on his terms, why would it bother you?

        Both these guys are B level options for Wilder and have been beaten by Joshua. They are interchangeable. I accept that Whyte has the better skills on paper, but neither are threats. Wilder can't get Joshua next and has earned the right to fight whomever his team and him want. If it is an ego driven decision to not play Hearn's games, then fine. I will still watch as most people will.

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        • landotter
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          #74
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          LOL Yet the WBC which wilder is champion for has whyte as the number one contender. Yet you bring up some bs from ring and ibo hahahhaa
          Wilder will fight Whyte when it is mandated. It is currently not. Yes, Whyte is ranked higher in most organizations rankings, but these organizations are politically motivate, greedy, and openly garbage. After make Stiverne #1 last year this particular organization has zero credibility and I wish we would all ignore them.

          I want Joshua against Wilder because it is the best HW fight out there. I could care less if all the belts got dropped to do it

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            #75
            Originally posted by yammy25
            Or because since he fought Joshua he has won the british heavyweight title, beaten a former multiple time EBU champion and a former world champion.

            You can question their credentials or whether or not they are "elite" because they certainly werent, but what has breazeale done?

            Turned up fat and out of shape for ugonoh , was getting tattoed until the guy gassed himself to death..or fought a fat, useless eric molina who had been battered by wilder ( who molina put on chicken legs ) and Joshua and was only tossed in by don king to try and secure another WBC shot?

            Whytes US tv debut averaged 400,000 for an unknown brit against an australian.. tell me if breazeale would pull those numbers headlining a card?

            Its a better fight for wilder financially, and a better fight for us fans.. you just dont like him evidently because hes british.
            He's literally only known across the pond BECAUSE he was TKO'd by Joshua thus for putting him in the spotlight. Do you think that Whyte would have gotten numbers like that on TV if he would have never fought and lost to AJ??? I'll answer that for you, HELL NO! And when has Breazeale ever shown up in shape? I'm not even a professional fighter and I'm in better shape than him.

            I'm not backing Wilder fighting Breazeale because I think it a $h!T fight but lets not act like Wilder was just searching for someone else to fight because he's scared of AJ or Whyte. Hearn is trying to tell Wilder that he NEEDS to fight Whyte to get to AJ with no guarantee. If I was a professional fighter I wouldn't be taking orders from someone else's promoter that fancy's himself a god.

            Yes, it is a better fight for Wilder financially but obviously egos are at stake here and Wilder i'm sure will be reluctant to fold to Hearns demands. It may be a better fight for UK fans but don't speak for U.S. boxing fans because we don't always believe when a promoter says something is gold when in actuality, it's brass. I actually like Whyte as a fighter but unfortunately it's the extra baggage that comes along with him that's the problem
            Last edited by 7not8; 04-02-2018, 10:37 AM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              LOL Yet the WBC which wilder is champion for has whyte as the number one contender. Yet you bring up some bs from ring and ibo hahahhaa
              yeah, because IBO isn't corrupt as ****, which is why people tend to use their computerized rankings, and Ring, like IBO ranks the whole division and not just who they think the number one contender should be.

              But you guys pick and choose when the WBC ranking is legit or not. When Steverne was Wilders mandatory, WBC rankings were a joke. Now that Whyte is #1 contender, they're legit.

              That being said though, I could use the WBC rankings if you like, since they show how far apart these two fighters are

              1. Whyte
              2. Breaz

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                #77
                Originally posted by sotgoda
                AJ also obliterated Whyte. So, what exactly is your point? Why should Wilder dance to your tune to fight Whyte instead of Breazeale when they are effectively around the same skill set? Arreola knocked out Molina in 1 round, yet AJ fought him. So?
                Imagine you need to wash one of two cars. For one the owner offers $10, for the other $40. Which car would you pick? Wilder picked the one for $10.

                I'm sorry for having to come down to these kind of analogies...nothing else seems to work.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by alexjust
                  Imagine you need to wash one of two cars. For one the owner offers $10, for the other $40. Which car would you pick? Wilder picked the one for $10.

                  I'm sorry for having to come down to these kind of analogies...nothing else seems to work.
                  My friend - everything is not all about money in this life. This is the problem unfortunately most human beings struggle with. If I don't like the owner who wants to pay $40 or have had a previous bad experience with him, I could chose the one for $10. My peace of mind is more important than money. Love of money is the root of evil. Everyone with an eye knows that Ortiz is the tougher fight relative to Whyte. Yet, Wilder took it and there are still complaints. Come on!

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Illmatic94
                    Brezeale, Whyte... wtf is the difference?
                    Eddie Hearn. That's it

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                      Its a good stay busy fight while Joshua takes a mando. Don't get me wrong, I feel like he should go to the UK, make the 4+ million, bludgeon Whyte, and let Joshua fans know that this ain a game.
                      I can def agree with the second half of your statement. Get used to travel, get the money and exposure.

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