Comments Thread For: Wilder: Fight Against Breazeale Possible If Joshua Isn't Next

[Ake-Dawg]

I know this, the idiotic americans and blacks dont, thats the issue

Ahhhhh.... there is the reason! Thanks!

[_Rexy_]

1. Get your facts straight, on of Breazeale's two last fights was against an undefeated up and comer from Poland who was ranked in the top 10 of the IBO at the time of the fight.

2. You just listed a bunch of nobodies and C level fighters to justify Whyte as something better than Breazeale. You know, there is a reason only British fighters hold the British titles.

3. I get it. You dislike Wilder. Please just state your real reasons instead of the bs boxing positions you take. Or is it you dislike him because he's a threat to Joshua.

damn, turns out Ugonoh IS Polish.

I might get banned for this, but I've never seen a Polish person so tan.

[Kezzer]

In B4 UK Nuthuggers come in here and say that Wilder is ducking Whyte even though they're basically ranked the same


Ring Magazine:
Whyte - 6
Breaz - 8

IBO:
Whyte - 7
Breaz - 5

I don’t think many would argue there is a huge difference in ranking however what they offer is different. Joshua has obviously fought them both and where as Breazeale was comfortable and just a “wear down” style opponent, Whyte did actually offer a potential threat. I don’t think anyone would Really give breazeale a sniff against WIlder afternoon joshuas performance against him. I wouldn’t be interested in watching that fight for sure.

Breazeale vs Whyte as an eliminator you couldn’t argue with though which would then make it a mandatory.

[soul_survivor]

I'm just posting the rankings. Seems everyone has them neck and neck.

WBC:
1. Whyte
2. Breazeale

Ring:
6. Whyte
8. Breazeale

IBO:
5. Breazeale
7. Whyte

IBF:
4. Breazeale
6. Whyte

WBO:
2, Breazeale
4. Whyte

I'd post the WBA, but it's just a ****ing joke. Whyte is listed 8th, and Breazeale is not ranked. That's fine, but my issue is that Oquendo is listed 2nd, and hasn't had a match in 4 years. Trevor Bryan is ranked 5th and Guillermo Jones is somehow ranked 11th. So I think we can both agree that the WBA is a joke

What do you mean neck and neck? Whyte has clearly done more, someone bring ranked one place behind him does not indicate the distance between them.

Do you honestly believe fatzeale has beaten better opponents?

[soul_survivor]

1. Get your facts straight, on of Breazeale's two last fights was against an undefeated up and comer from Poland who was ranked in the top 10 of the IBO at the time of the fight.

2. You just listed a bunch of nobodies and C level fighters to justify Whyte as something better than Breazeale. You know, there is a reason only British fighters hold the British titles.

3. I get it. You dislike Wilder. Please just state your real reasons instead of the bs boxing positions you take. Or is it you dislike him because he's a threat to Joshua.

Whyte has beaten Chisora, Helenius and Browne. I don't particularly rate the latter two myself but in the modern heavyweight environment, they have all been rated highly and/or had solid wins.

They are far superior to fatzeales wins. Name me one fighter on that record better or on par with Chisora?

I'll be waiting.

[KhalilJoaquin]

Not a fight I look foward to Breazeale is light work but will be another strike toward that 50-0. I would much rather see Wilder vs Miller

[alexjust]

My friend - everything is not all about money in this life. This is the problem unfortunately most human beings struggle with. If I don't like the owner who wants to pay $40 or have had a previous bad experience with him, I could chose the one for $10. My peace of mind is more important than money. Love of money is the root of evil. Everyone with an eye knows that Ortiz is the tougher fight relative to Whyte. Yet, Wilder took it and there are still complaints. Come on!

Give it a rest with that pseudo-altruistic BS
Wilder is a prize fighter.He fights for money. You are right about peace of mind. A WBC world champion with 40 fights under the belt, Bronze medal, 10 years of experience needs a peace of mind by choosing to fight the weaker link of the division. Words attributable only to a true champion. The next Hall of Famer without a doubt.

P.S. I would rate Ortiz higher than Whyte, agreed. Meaning that not choosing to fight Whyte for 3 times more than he got for fighting Ortiz even more puzzling. Or is Wilder so much in self-doubt after fighting Ortiz? Because Breazele...really? 36 yo 160lb GGG would give Wilder more trouble than Breazele

[sotgoda]

Give it a rest with that pseudo-altruistic BS
Wilder is a prize fighter.He fights for money. You are right about peace of mind. A WBC world champion with 40 fights under the belt, Bronze medal, 10 years of experience needs a peace of mind by choosing to fight the weaker link of the division. Words attributable only to a true champion. The next Hall of Famer without a doubt.

P.S. I would rate Ortiz higher than Whyte, agreed. Meaning that not choosing to fight Whyte for 3 times more than he got for fighting Ortiz even more puzzling. Or is Wilder so much in self-doubt after fighting Ortiz? Because Breazele...really? 36 yo 160lb GGG would give Wilder more trouble than Breazele

Don't get your point, bro. Are you saying Whyte is better than Breazele? If that's what you are saying - I am sorry I don't agree. Nothing Whyte has done is better than Breazeale. I rate them both at the same level. I actually think Breazeale might even have the better chin. Wilder took the Ortiz fight to quiet critics but nothing he does will ever be enough.

Once Wilder beats AJ, we will hear additional excuses. Wilder will get respect when he retires.

[alexjust]

Don't get your point, bro. Are you saying Whyte is better than Breazele? If that's what you are saying - I am sorry I don't agree. Nothing Whyte has done is better than Breazeale. I rate them both at the same level. I actually think Breazeale might even have the better chin. Wilder took the Ortiz fight to quiet critics but nothing he does will ever be enough.

Once Wilder beats AJ, we will hear additional excuses. Wilder will get respect when he retires.

Dude... The point is that Whyte is more dangerous to Wilder than Breazele. While on paper Breazele and Whyte look similar, I'd definitely give edge to Whyte. He is busier, clearly significantly better than when he was when he fought AJ, had stronger opposition than Breazele. But most important point is - he brings to Wilder 3-4 times more money than Breazele. One would think its a non-brainer, but it is apparently. Which is especially weird given how disparaging Wilder was to Whyte. If it is such an easy job for so much money, why not do it and be done with it? Career high earnings stay busy fight. But still no, he would rather fight Breazele. Brezele was literally a punching bag for AJ.

I can't agree with you that nobody gives credit to Wilder. Its just other than Ortiz (with whom he struggled) he fought nobody of note. At least for me Wilder is someone I really didn't know very well (before Ortiz) because nobody has ever tested him. People do give him credit for Ortiz, but he will waste this credit pretty damn quickly if he gets off the gas pedal and resumes fighting Breazeles of the division. If not Whyte, why not offer a fight to Povetkin? At least Big Baby? Opposition level needs to go up, not down. And with Breazele its like...dude, WTF are you doing with your career?

P.S. If he hadn't fought Ortiz, I'd literally stop paying attention to Wilder at this stage. He'd be nothing but a glorified version of Charles Martin who got lucky getting the belt. Luckily he proved he's got massive determination to win and can turn on his windmill that can blow away anyone. He's got the momentum now and it would be foolish to lose it. But that's the way he is heading to with Breazele.

[P4Pdunny]

that's alot of really's