AJ is an Athlete. Deontay Is A Gamebred Fighter.

[BoxingIsGreat]

So there is no special fighter in the heavyweight division?

I don't. Who is special based on skills? Wilder? Joshua?

[M Bison]

This is why they don't want it, we all seen Parker expose Joshua badly and even hurt Joshua, Wilder will put Joshua to sleep when he lands and he will land.

[BillyBoxing]

Ortiz's footwork is pretty solid. He's a fundamentally well-schooled fighter. Footwork is definitely not his problem. He may not be a defensive wizard, but he's a solid defensive fighter.

No, he didn't cutt off the ring but followed Wilder around, he's just always doing the same step side to create the same angle, he's a one trick pony.

His footwork is BASIC.

Ortiz has always been walking in Odlanier Solis shadow in ams, his best win in his whole boxing life is Jennings coming off a loss.

You guys better cut that sht with Ortiz being some HW version of Rigo.

Don't get me wrong, its still a nice win for Wilder, it just shows that the HW boxing scene his utter sht.

AJ and Wilder are both overflawed and both lack stamina if you ask me.

Like I said, Holy, Lewis, Klit Vit would have beat them clear.

[HeadShots]

I don't. Who is special based on skills? Wilder? Joshua?

Which HW Champ in history has a record like this

40 wins 39 KO's?

[HeadShots]

No, he didn't cutt off the ring but followed Wilder around, he's just always doing the same step side to create the same angle, he's a one trick pony.

His footwork is BASIC.

Ortiz has always been walking in Odlanier Solis shadow in ams, his best win in his whole boxing life is Jennings coming off a loss.

You guys better cut that sht with Ortiz being some HW version of Rigo.

Don't get me wrong, its still a nice win for Wilder, it just shows that the HW boxing scene his utter sht.

AJ and Wilder are both overflawed and both lack stamina if you ask me.

Like I said, Holy, Lewis, Klit Vit would have beat them clear.

i don't understand these idiots come around and say chit Parker needed to cut off the ring on Fury or Ortiz needed to cut off the ring on Deontay.


When have they fought like swarmers? They are boxer-punchers.


Meaning they operate in the center of the ring.


It's like these idiots don't understand styles. They see GGG cutting off the ring on boxers and everyone moving forward needs to do the same. It's not like that.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Which HW Champ in history has a record like this

40 wins 39 KO's?

Records don't matter when you are not fighting skilled, top competition. See GGG's resume for reference.

[HeadShots]

Records don't matter when you are not fighting skilled, top competition. See GGG's resume for reference.

Ortiz is a skilled top 5 opponent at heavyweight

Stiverne was a top 5 ex-champ

[LacedUp]

Here is Joshua vs a guy that's 3 years older than Ortiz. Coming off a loss and a 2 year layoff.

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Also Joshua is on record admitting getting KTFO by the big stiff idiot David Price.



Straight facts.

"a guy"...

Embarrassing.

[LacedUp]

Ortiz is a skilled top 5 opponent at heavyweight

Stiverne was a top 5 ex-champ

Who did either man beat?

[HeadShots]

Who did either man beat?

Ortiz beat Jennings, Tony Thompson . world class fighters. He knocked out Jennings whom Wlad couldn't.



Ortiz's record > Parkers > Takam's


Ortiz would beat Wlad heads up too.