AJ is an Athlete. Deontay Is A Gamebred Fighter.

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  • HeadShots
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    #21
    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
    No need for insults.

    What boxing skills impress you about Wilder or Joshua?
    Davis is ten times better than both in the ring, not even close!

    gervontis davis is a manlet. that does not impress me. i view manlet fighting the same as female fighting.


    no matter how skilled he is, WIlder would kill him with 1 punch. size matters.

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    • HeadShots
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      #22
      Originally posted by Wildstalker
      LMFAO. His own trainer confirmed that Wilder was dropped by Harold Sconiers. Just STFU dude..... stop embarrassing yourself.

      Skip to 2:50



      I could keep messing with you but that would just be cruel lol.

      Go educate yourself kid.

      you still have no provided concrete facts. you're posting hearsay like a female.

      i'm providing you with documented video proof of AJ getting socked by inactive senior citizens and himself admitting on tape of getting knocked out by david price. a complete bum.


      you keep posting rumors like a female would.

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      • Make U Cry
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        #23
        Originally posted by HeadShots
        you still have no provided concrete facts. you're posting hearsay like a female.

        i'm providing you with documented video proof of AJ getting socked by inactive senior citizens and himself admitting on tape of getting knocked out by david price. a complete bum.


        you keep posting rumors like a female would.
        Lol everyone who viewed this thread knows who the female talking out of his ass is. You done embarrassed your whole fan base girl.

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        • HeadShots
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          #24
          Originally posted by Wildstalker
          Lol everyone who viewed this thread knows who the female talking out of his ass is. You done embarrassed your whole fan base girl.
          When run into the corner, you lash back by stealing my insults.


          catty like a true mangina.

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          • Ray*
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            #25
            I was surprised Ortiz gave Wilder any trouble at all, apart from the KO and KD Wilder didn’t impress in that fight, he was loading up and getting bullied by Ortiz. The KO was paper over cracks for me in terms of his performance, but that doesn’t mean he would not stop AJ IMHO. The KD of Ortiz is one of the reasons I see him stopping AJ.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ray*
              I was surprised Ortiz gave Wilder any trouble at all, apart from the KO and KD Wilder didn’t impress in that fight, he was loading up and getting bullied by Ortiz. The KO was paper over cracks for me in terms of his performance, but that doesn’t mean he would not stop AJ IMHO. The KD of Ortiz is one of the reasons I see him stopping AJ.

              he impressed me very much that night because i rated Ortiz very highly.



              Before that fight, I rate Ortiz higher than Parker H2h. I'd have him beat the likes of Parker, Takam and Ruiz who are all clearly on the same level.

              Ortiz is a level above with his defense, power and skills.


              Ortiz knocked out Bryant Jennings who was very underrated and gave Wlad hell. Jennings is on Parker's level imo.

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #27
                Originally posted by HeadShots
                That is the difference between these 2. One guy has all the muscles and the fundamentals. But Deontay can click into a super human mode where you cannot explain the things he does.


                If you have a sound defense, there's nothing Joshua can do to you. He would stand in front of you and just stare at you for 12 rounds like he did to Parker who didn't even run. Stayed on the ropes but remained defensively sound at all times. Joshua just stared at him. Landed 0 right hands.



                Now this is what Deontay does to a defensively sound opponent.

                [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/RIVXl11WAbP2kfpzpt/*****.gif[/IMG]

                You can have your chin tucked. Check.

                You can have your high guard up. Check.

                You can have your low guard up. Check.

                You can have your jaw/nose/chin protected in the arm. Check.

                YOu can have a great chin. Never been down in the pros. Check.



                Wilder blasts his forehead with a short right hand and knocks
                him down.


                You cannot train defense for this.
                This is one of Wilder's wild inaccurate punches finally landing.

                Wilder missed a lot of shot vs Ortiz and it's not like Ortiz was a defensive wizzard, he kinda has a shell defense but doesn't even have a footwork to begin with which is the best weapon in a defensive arsenal.

                It's a 50-50 fight, I believe Wilder would stop Parker probably but would get outboxed in the process, at least AJ controlled the fight.

                Wilder has more power, AJ more brain.

                They are both very flawed, Lewis or Vitali K would have walked through them like a hot knife through butter.

                Wlad would have outboxed, beaten them in his prime even if both would have a solid puncher vs Wlad.

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                • Ham Porter
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  he impressed me very much that night because i rated Ortiz very highly.



                  Before that fight, I rate Ortiz higher than Parker H2h. I'd have him beat the likes of Parker, Takam and Ruiz who are all clearly on the same level.

                  Ortiz is a level above with his defense, power and skills.


                  Ortiz knocked out Bryant Jennings who was very underrated and gave Wlad hell. Jennings is on Parker's level imo.



                  You're the only one who did rate Ortiz highly by that point then. Everyone else had seen him looking like the fifty year old man he's generally accepted to be in his previous fights leading up to that.

                  I'm surprised he hurt Wilder as badly as he did, because his power never looked there the entire fight. He seemed devoid of any type of explosiveness, yet Wilder reacted like he'd just been clobbered by Earnie Shavers.

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                    #29
                    I think AJ sleeps Wilder or cruises to a shut out.

                    Wilder went life and death with a 40+ year old and may have well been stopped had he not been the A side fighter.

                    Unless you think Wilder can outpoint AJ, then it's him who will need to risk all when jumping in.

                    I'd actually love to see Wilder vs Breazele, i think that will be a good scrap.

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                    • Biolink
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                      #30
                      Wilder was caught off guard. Anyone could do the dance if they get caught with a shot like that

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