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  • Bjl12
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    #11
    WADA director stated Canelo's positive tests were "consistent with meat contamination".

    Take that for what you will

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    • TonyGe
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bjl12
      WADA director stated Canelo's positive tests were "consistent with meat contamination".

      Take that for what you will
      How can WADA rationalize that? It's also consistant with the end of a high dose taken knowingly.

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      • 4truth
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        #13
        Originally posted by TonyGe
        How can WADA rationalize that? It's also consistant with the end of a high dose taken knowingly.
        Yeah, that’s the thing. If this had happened any other time during testing but at the beginning, the excuse would be believable. I don’t know how many random tests Canelo has taken in his career but it’s more than a few. What are the odds that the only time he eats tainted meat is at the very beginning of a 10 week random test battery? I’m thinking it’s pretty slim but you can draw your own conclusions.

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        • mcdonalds
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          #14
          Originally posted by TonyGe
          How can WADA rationalize that? It's also consistant with the end of a high dose taken knowingly.
          because the first test was between 0.6-0.8 ng, anything around 1ng can be from meat contamination.

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          • Johnston
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            #15
            Originally posted by mcdonalds
            because the first test was between 0.6-0.8 ng, anything around 1ng can be from meat contamination.
            Do you understand what he said? The amount in his system is completely irrelevant because drugs gradually leave the body. He could have taken a high dose and then by the time he was tested have trace amounts in his system.

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            • mcdonalds
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              #16
              Originally posted by Johnston
              Do you understand what he said? The amount in his system is completely irrelevant because drugs gradually leave the body. He could have taken a high dose and then by the time he was tested have trace amounts in his system.
              I did read what he said and he asked how wada could rationalize how the amount could be consistent with meat contamination.

              So by doing your own research you can actually find out that anything around 1ng is POSSIBLY from meat contamination. So yes his test results are consistent with meat contamination.

              Keyword: POSSIBLY
              Last edited by mcdonalds; 04-01-2018, 11:15 PM.

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              • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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                #17
                Originally posted by Johnston
                Do you understand what he said? The amount in his system is completely irrelevant because drugs gradually leave the body. He could have taken a high dose and then by the time he was tested have trace amounts in his system.
                Thats a theory, that people have made up imo with no actual factual evidence or credible sources backing that opinion.

                Clenbuterol leaves the system 4-5 days after use so Canelo is Using Celnbuterol while ENTERING camp? knowning he will be getting tested? I doubt that.

                "What is the Clenbuterol Half-Life?

                Studies have shown that the clenbuterol half-life is 28 to 36 hours.

                What is its active life?

                The clenbuterol active life is reached 2 to 3 days after oral administration.

                How long does it take for clenbuterol to get out of your system?

                The Clenbuterol detection time is 4-5 days after administration. It’s detectable in your bloodstream for 48 hours."

                source:
                https://steroidly.com/clenbuterol-half-life/


                What is Half Time?
                Is Half the dosage will be in your system

                What is After Life?
                Time the drug will produce the desired affect.

                source:
                http://anabolic.co/anabolic-steroids...and-half-life/



                So if we looking at this logical from a non bias POV and just look at the facts.

                1ng or below is inline with meat contantimation.
                Mexico has a meat problem that causes people to test for Clentbutrol
                Canelo has tested over 90+ times cleaned
                Canelo would have had to start/continue taking Clenbutrol while starting camp since clenbutrol leaves the sytem in 4-5 days

                So with all the evidence etc I have no issue in believing he is clean imo.

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                • HeadShots
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
                  Thats a theory, that people have made up imo with no actual factual evidence or credible sources backing that opinion.

                  Clenbuterol leaves the system 4-5 days after use so Canelo is Using Celnbuterol while ENTERING camp? knowning he will be getting tested? I doubt that.

                  "What is the Clenbuterol Half-Life?

                  Studies have shown that the clenbuterol half-life is 28 to 36 hours.

                  What is its active life?

                  The clenbuterol active life is reached 2 to 3 days after oral administration.

                  How long does it take for clenbuterol to get out of your system?

                  The Clenbuterol detection time is 4-5 days after administration. It’s detectable in your bloodstream for 48 hours."

                  source:
                  https://steroidly.com/clenbuterol-half-life/


                  What is Half Time?
                  Is Half the dosage will be in your system

                  What is After Life?
                  Time the drug will produce the desired affect.

                  source:
                  http://anabolic.co/anabolic-steroids...and-half-life/



                  So if we looking at this logical from a non bias POV and just look at the facts.

                  1ng or below is inline with meat contantimation.
                  Mexico has a meat problem that causes people to test for Clentbutrol
                  Canelo has tested over 90+ times cleaned
                  Canelo would have had to start/continue taking Clenbutrol while starting camp since clenbutrol leaves the sytem in 4-5 days

                  So with all the evidence etc I have no issue in believing he is clean imo.

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                  • 4truth
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
                    Thats a theory, that people have made up imo with no actual factual evidence or credible sources backing that opinion.

                    Clenbuterol leaves the system 4-5 days after use so Canelo is Using Celnbuterol while ENTERING camp? knowning he will be getting tested? I doubt that.

                    "What is the Clenbuterol Half-Life?

                    Studies have shown that the clenbuterol half-life is 28 to 36 hours.

                    What is its active life?

                    The clenbuterol active life is reached 2 to 3 days after oral administration.

                    How long does it take for clenbuterol to get out of your system?

                    The Clenbuterol detection time is 4-5 days after administration. It’s detectable in your bloodstream for 48 hours."

                    source:
                    https://steroidly.com/clenbuterol-half-life/


                    What is Half Time?
                    Is Half the dosage will be in your system

                    What is After Life?
                    Time the drug will produce the desired affect.

                    source:
                    http://anabolic.co/anabolic-steroids...and-half-life/



                    So if we looking at this logical from a non bias POV and just look at the facts.

                    1ng or below is inline with meat contantimation.
                    Mexico has a meat problem that causes people to test for Clentbutrol
                    Canelo has tested over 90+ times cleaned
                    Canelo would have had to start/continue taking Clenbutrol while starting camp since clenbutrol leaves the sytem in 4-5 days

                    So with all the evidence etc I have no issue in believing he is clean imo.
                    You are making the same mistake they made. It can take more than 4-5 days to be undetectable quite a bit more and the actual number varies and therefore is hard to predict. You think it’s believable then that the only time Canelo has eaten tainted Mexican beef during all the days he has ever tested, is a day or so before his 10 weeks (2 weeks more than he is used to)of random testing began? That is believable to you?

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                    • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 4truth
                      You are making the same mistake they made. It can take more than 4-5 days to be undetectable quite a bit more and the actual number varies and therefore is hard to predict. You think it’s believable then that the only time Canelo has eaten tainted Mexican beef during all the days he has ever tested, is a day or so before his 10 weeks (2 weeks more than he is used to)of random testing began? That is believable to you?
                      yeah, I believe it. I have to look it up but I think 30% of the meat in mexico is tainted so its not out of the realm of possibilities.

                      To just say I dont believe it is actually not being fair. Its plausible, now if you dont want to believe it thats okay too but I chose to believe it.
                      Last edited by .!WAR MIKEY!.; 04-01-2018, 11:49 PM.

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