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  • #11
    Originally posted by lex_fugitive View Post
    Some idiots will compare Frazier and Foreman with Postol and Feliz Diaz.

    Just tell me, out of those seven fighters listed, who's opposition is worse than Bud's? No, no one can name 7 guys Ali's own size who had better resumes than he did. Ever. Let alone 7 at the same time as him.

    People put guys as great off beating a bunch of no ones. "Cherry" Garcia has fought much better opposition than Bud has. And he is younger. If Postol and Indongo are like Frazier and Foreman, who are Peterson and Brook like?

    You totally missed my point. Your rage has your mind in tunnel vision mode.

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    • #12
      I can't hate the guy for being good at weight cutting, if he makes 140 than that's that. He just moved up also all of this is really moot.

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      • #13








        It's not easy to pick on Crawford for beating the ish out of all these guys when you use your eyes and look at them next to each other.

        Originally posted by Julia Slobberts View Post
        There are some people who, no matter who a boxer beats, will always question their resume.


        Like this:

        "Ali never fought anyone good. Foreman was one-dimensional. Frazier was undersized. Then when he finally fought a decent boxer in Holmes he got his but kicked!"
        Perfect response.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by lex_fugitive View Post
          Other fighters, most notably Julio Ceaser Chavez Jr. and Canelo, have received plenty of criticism for putting on close to 20 pounds from weigh-in to the fight. That’s not fair and they should have to fight people their own size was common talk. Bud puts on close to 20 pounds from weigh-in to fight. Just as bad as Chavez Jr. was, but no one says anything about it.

          Bud isn’t naturally smaller than the top welterweights, he just drained himself to stay in weak divisions. In April 2015, DSG fought Peterson at a catchweight of 143, with DSG saying he was staying at welterweight, after failing to make 140 the previous fight. Bud had his first fight at 140 a week later.

          Bud’s toughest opponents are probably Postol and Diaz. Maybe Indongo. Is that better than any of the following?

          Thurman: DSG and Porter
          DSG: Khan, Matthysse, Thurman while all were ranked #1 in the division
          Porter: Brook and Thurman
          Spence: Peterson and Brook (in England)
          Broner: Maidana, Porter, and Mikey Garcia
          Brook: Porter, G, and Spence
          Khan: DSG, Peterson, and Canelo

          Right there are seven fighters. All that weigh close to the same as Crawford does in the ring. All except Khan and Brook (both just one year older) are younger Bud. All, win or lose, fought better opposition than Bud.

          Other fighters who have fought better opposition have been called duckers and cherry pickers by many. Others who put on the same amount of weight from weigh-in until fight have been criticized harshly for it. Why not Bud?


          That's right they don't say anything about it, but when Crawford fights a midget in comparison to height and weight (Gamboa) Crawford gets massive props for that win AND nobody takes into consideration Gamboa has a year plus of inactivity!
          Remember, Golovkin win over Kell Brook doesn't mean anything, but because Crawford is this so called posterchild for boxing he gets plaudits for beating a guy who was way smaller, much more shorter, had a long layoff, and who lost to a part timer boxer!

          Bud's toughest fight is funny because I just mocked him for it, but undoubtedly Gamboa was the only one who gave Crawford big problems!
          The most biggest name on Crawford resume is absolute average, it's Ricky Burns lol that is his big stand-out name on that terrible resume for a guy who is meant to be P4P #1...

          I call B.S. to it and I have been calling it out against him for quite sometime, Crawford hasn't got a great win yet that is why he isn't a realistic candidate for P4P #1, but some idiots in the boxing world leach onto that 0 as If it actually means anything.

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          • #15
            Name Bud : Meaning, origin, etymology and all informations about first name Bud , short for BUDDY _

            People look at Bud and it sends a subconscious image as a friend ( a buddy ) so most look away at his wrong doings . What a clever trickster that Bud is using his name for his gain !

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Julia Slobberts View Post
              You totally missed my point. Your rage has your mind in tunnel vision mode.
              Its not rage, I have nothing against Bud. Just I hold him to the same standards as every other professional fighter. Being the same size as all the welterweights and yet having at least 7 other active pro boxers with better opposition, does not make one p4p. It means one looks great against smaller, less skilled pros. No offense to Postol and Diaz, they are good fighters and have accomplished more than most ever will, but beating them does is not the same as beating DSG and Porter or Brook and Peterson. It isn't. Postol and Diaz, are good, but they are second tier. They are not elite. They are one step below that.

              I give props for having balls and taking the tough fights. Broner might not be that great at all, but guess what? He is much smaller than Bud and not nearly as talented and he has fought three opponents who put Postol and Indongo to shame. Again, Broner isn't half as good as Bud is, yet he is willing to fight bigger and better opponents.

              I call Thurman a punk and duck like everyone else for refusing to fight Spence. And Thurman beat DSG and Porter his last two fights. If everyone is slamming Thurman (which they should be doing) everyone should also be slamming TC. At least try and fight DSG or Porter. Sorry, anyone as good as Bud is, deserves to be criticized if his best wins are over Postol and Diaz. This isn't rage or hate against Bud. This is admitting Bud is one hell of a fighter and he is clearly a league or two above the Postol, Diaz, and Horn's of the world. I just want to see the best fight the best. I see all the other welterweights doing that (at least occasionally), just not TC.

              I just want to know why he gets held to such lower standards than everyone else.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View Post
                It's not easy to pick on Crawford for beating the ish out of all these guys when you use your eyes and look at them next to each other.
                So you admit, at least seven other active professional boxers, the same size as Bud, all have fought better opposition.

                And yes, you would think comparing Joe Frazier and George Foreman to Viktor Postol and Felix Diaz is a perfect response.

                Height does not equal size. If Easter moved up to 147 and fought Spence or Thurman, would you say Easter is bigger? Even though he weighs 15 pounds less? Bottom line is he packed on 20 pounds from weigh in until fight so he could fight guys like Postol and avoid DSG, Porter, Spence and Thurman.

                If Postol and Indongo are like Frazier and Foreman what are DSG and Porter like? My god, they are even better than anyone Ali fought, if Postol is as good as Frazier!

                A ww who has 7 other active fighters the same size and age who have fought better opposition. What seven heavyweights who were all active when Ali was, had faced better opposition than him?

                No, I compare Crawford to other fighters his own age and size. Idiots compare him to Ali. Ali fought Joe Frazier and George Foreman. Terence Crawford has fought Viktor Postol and Felix Diaz. Little bit of a difference there. Little bit.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by lex_fugitive View Post
                  So you admit, at least seven other active professional boxers, the same size as Bud, all have fought better opposition.

                  And yes, you would think comparing Joe Frazier and George Foreman to Viktor Postol and Felix Diaz is a perfect response.

                  Height does not equal size. If Easter moved up to 147 and fought Spence or Thurman, would you say Easter is bigger? Even though he weighs 15 pounds less? Bottom line is he packed on 20 pounds from weigh in until fight so he could fight guys like Postol and avoid DSG, Porter, Spence and Thurman.

                  If Postol and Indongo are like Frazier and Foreman what are DSG and Porter like? My god, they are even better than anyone Ali fought, if Postol is as good as Frazier!

                  A ww who has 7 other active fighters the same size and age who have fought better opposition. What seven heavyweights who were all active when Ali was, had faced better opposition than him?

                  No, I compare Crawford to other fighters his own age and size. Idiots compare him to Ali. Ali fought Joe Frazier and George Foreman. Terence Crawford has fought Viktor Postol and Felix Diaz. Little bit of a difference there. Little bit.
                  I'm looking at the other comments and I don't honestly know if you're trolling or if you are just so low in reading comprehension that you don't understand what anyone is saying. It's either deliberate misreading or unintentional misreading. It's between those two things.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by punishing View Post
                    I can't hate the guy for being good at weight cutting, if he makes 140 than that's that. He just moved up also all of this is really moot.
                    Not really. Bud is fighting a retired school teacher who is not a top 5 welterweight. And if he is a welterweight and has never fought a welterweight, if he is 160 pounds and he has never fought another guy who is 160 pounds, how is he ranked anywhere on any p4p list? When Bud fights and beats opponents who warrant a p4p ranking, than the point will be moot. Until then, TC is being held to a much, much lower standard than every other pro boxer. He will continue to never face an elite opponent as long as his fanboys claim he is p4p champ for taking out the mighty Indongo.

                    Heck, AB needs to fight Indongo next. Then the p4p rankings can be 1) Bud 2) Prograis and 3)Broner. Sorry Loma, looks like you've been knocked outta the top 3. Indongo is like Joe Frazier or George Foreman according to some posters on here.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View Post
                      I'm looking at the other comments and I don't honestly know if you're trolling or if you are just so low in reading comprehension that you don't understand what anyone is saying. It's either deliberate misreading or unintentional misreading. It's between those two things.
                      Which out of those seven fighters have fought worse opposition? Who?

                      I'm sorry, I'm the troll. Not the two proclaiming Postol and Diaz to be akin to Joe Frazier and George Foreman.

                      Honestly, who, I have listed seven active fighters the same size and age as Bud who have all fought much better opposition. Who on that list do you believe has fought worse competition than Bud?

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