Wilder Deserves Respect

[chrisJS]

Never was a Wilder fan up until his last fight. He could have avoided Ortiz with a legitimate excuse that Ortiz is a drug cheat but he didn't. He took a tough fight and pulled through, he took some punishment and showed grit... I don't agree with everything he says and his resume isn't great, but he always comes to fight, always comes to knock you out, always pushes for a clean sport and always tries to hype fights.

It looks to me that people don't like Wilder because of 1) his fans or 2) he is a threat to their favorite fighter. If you don't fall under reason 1 or 2 then why would you not like the guy? what's your reason?

His new found fans are annoying and fall under a tedious set of boxing fans that adopt a guy because they hate another fighter. That wouldn't normally be enough reason for me to dislike the man but he has also assaulted a woman, a fellow boxer in front of his terrified wife and children and I generally just don't root for or get behind a guy that's loud and obnoxious (though I understand marketing but it's my right to not be a fan) and has corny catch phrases like "Bomb Squad".

I also don't particularly enjoy watching a fighter with his style and technique though I respect his power. He was also protected for a very long time and took his first semi-risk very deep into his career after a lot of useless fights despite many other fighters wanting a fight with him. So throw that all together and I can see why someone wouldn't like him.

[Madison Boxing]

I've posted it in another thread but he had no amateur career to speak of so yeah his resume sucks for the early parts but is improving and his last fight was against a top 5 heavyweight.

Me and you both vigorously defend Golovkins resume because he had a hard time getting markee names to fight him, i am not looking to turn it into a resume thread on Wilder as his resume isn't great but he is fighting the best now and wants to fight the best going forward, can't really knock that down.

I just don't think we should be congratulating someone for fighting one tough fight in 40 lol. Joshua overtook him in less than Half the fights and he wasn't really that experienced as an amateur. They both placed on the podium. You've got Joyce trying to fight chisora after 3 fights lol, wilder was facing people like Jason gavern after 30.

[lopetego]

Never was a Wilder fan up until his last fight. He could have avoided Ortiz with a legitimate excuse that Ortiz is a drug cheat but he didn't. He took a tough fight and pulled through, he took some punishment and showed grit... I don't agree with everything he says and his resume isn't great, but he always comes to fight, always comes to knock you out, always pushes for a clean sport and always tries to hype fights.

It looks to me that people don't like Wilder because of 1) his fans or 2) he is a threat to their favorite fighter. If you don't fall under reason 1 or 2 then why would you not like the guy? what's your reason?

Yet he ducked Povetkin for the same reason without thinking twice

why he gave Ortiz a second chance but won't give Sasha?

you know why

Because Ortiz is old as dirt and looked in decline in his last couple fight

so Bumsquad thought, "hurr, old dude is slipping fast, I might be able to beat him after all. Time to gain some cred by beating someone who isn't a complete bum and looks good on paper hehe "

Windmiller has been a fraud most of his career and still has a lot to prove

and the only thing Wilder proved in the Ortiz fight, was that he has better stamina than the old man

Ortiz was outboxing him and was going to stop him before he gassed

[E10Rifle]

Never was a Wilder fan up until his last fight. He could have avoided Ortiz with a legitimate excuse that Ortiz is a drug cheat but he didn't. He took a tough fight and pulled through, he took some punishment and showed grit... I don't agree with everything he says and his resume isn't great, but he always comes to fight, always comes to knock you out, always pushes for a clean sport and always tries to hype fights.

It looks to me that people don't like Wilder because of 1) his fans or 2) he is a threat to their favorite fighter. If you don't fall under reason 1 or 2 then why would you not like the guy? what's your reason?

There is a disconnect between your title and post. No liking him and not respecting him are completely different things. I don’t respect his hilariously padded record, his reign as a champion or his skills as a boxer. But I like the guy - even if he is as thick as a bag of cement - and I think he’s good for the division. Complete opposite of AJ tbh, whom I respect but don’t particularly like.

[_Maxi]

I agree with you...

[Irony123]

His new found fans are annoying and fall under a tedious set of boxing fans that adopt a guy because they hate another fighter. That wouldn't normally be enough reason for me to dislike the man but he has also assaulted a woman, a fellow boxer in front of his terrified wife and children and I generally just don't root for or get behind a guy that's loud and obnoxious (though I understand marketing but it's my right to not be a fan) and has corny catch phrases like "Bomb Squad".

I also don't particularly enjoy watching a fighter with his style and technique though I respect his power. He was also protected for a very long time and took his first semi-risk very deep into his career after a lot of useless fights despite many other fighters wanting a fight with him. So throw that all together and I can see why someone wouldn't like him.

That's fair i can't recall what happened as far as the assult case will look into it.

[Irony123]

There is a disconnect between your title and post. No liking him and not respecting him are completely different things. I don’t respect his hilariously padded record, his reign as a champion or his skills as a boxer. But I like the guy - even if he is as thick as a bag of cement - and I think he’s good for the division. Complete opposite of AJ tbh, whom I respect but don’t particularly like.

you are right, i guess usually like and respect in most cases go hand in hand but not always.

[Irony123]

Yet he ducked Povetkin for the same reason without thinking twice

why he gave Ortiz a second chance but won't give Sasha?

you know why

Because Ortiz is old as dirt and looked in decline in his last couple fight

so Bumsquad thought, "hurr, old dude is slipping fast, I might be able to beat him after all. Time to gain some cred by beating someone who isn't a complete bum and looks good on paper hehe "

Windmiller has been a fraud most of his career and still has a lot to prove

and the only thing Wilder proved in the Ortiz fight, was that he has better stamina than the old man

Ortiz was outboxing him and was going to stop him before he gassed

He chose not to fight Povetkin but ended up fighting Ortiz, I think his post-fight interview was telling why he did that, and I don't think it is for the same reason's you stated. To be honest, if the fight had taken place back then i was rooting for Povetkin, but i think at this point i've changed my view on Wilder and if they end up fighting at any point in the future I would support Wilder.

I am not going to blame Wilder for the Povetkin fight not taking place, that is all on Povetkin. Wilder signed the fight, and was going into his opponents backyard, he did what he needed to.

[DreamFighter]

Yet he ducked Povetkin for the same reason without thinking twice

why he gave Ortiz a second chance but won't give Sasha?

you know why

Because Ortiz is old as dirt and looked in decline in his last couple fight

so Bumsquad thought, "hurr, old dude is slipping fast, I might be able to beat him after all. Time to gain some cred by beating someone who isn't a complete bum and looks good on paper hehe "

Windmiller has been a fraud most of his career and still has a lot to prove

and the only thing Wilder proved in the Ortiz fight, was that he has better stamina than the old man

Ortiz was outboxing him and was going to stop him before he gassed

pov and ortiz are same age fool

[Fists_of_Fury]

Never was a Wilder fan up until his last fight. He could have avoided Ortiz with a legitimate excuse that Ortiz is a drug cheat but he didn't. He took a tough fight and pulled through, he took some punishment and showed grit... I don't agree with everything he says and his resume isn't great, but he always comes to fight, always comes to knock you out, always pushes for a clean sport and always tries to hype fights.

It looks to me that people don't like Wilder because of 1) his fans or 2) he is a threat to their favorite fighter. If you don't fall under reason 1 or 2 then why would you not like the guy? what's your reason?

He is racist and supports commie pos that want to infringe on my rights.