U.S. Flops vs U.K. Success

[Tygshsu]

Oh sh^t do you get more on the UK PPV? I wasn't aware.



If Hearn does his job I think it does 750k+. And I don't see why Hearn wouldn't do his job.

These are HW's. HW's is a whole other sport damn near. I think they can go from 0 to 60 fast with the right moves. Definitely need to get Joshua to the US more first & foremost. Get his a$$ on Ellen's show & doing random sh^t like that.

It dosent do more than 350K FACT.That's why Hearn is putting Joshua in America as a build up fight to Wilder.That's why it could happen in 2019.Showtime is not going to bring out it's PPV Arm for a fight that will struggle to do 500K Buys

[Eff Pandas]

It dosent do more than 350K FACT.That's why Hearn is putting Joshua in America as a build up fight to Wilder.That's why it could happen in 2019.Showtime is not going to bring out it's PPV Arm for a fight that will struggle to do 500K Buys

I'll do a over/under bet with you if this fight gets made next. It'll for sure do over 350k imo. Or Hearn isn't as good a promoter as I think.

That said it probably won't happen cuz I don't think Hearn wants it to happen next.

[jmrf4435]

These were considered flops in the U.S.

14k in attendance Mayweather vs. Guerrero = $10 mil gate

12k attendance Mayweather vs. Berto = $10 mil gate

This is considered success in the UK

90k in attendance Joshua vs. Klitschko =£8 mil gate

This wasn't even a superfight

14k in attendance Calzaghe vs. Hopkins = $11 mil gate

Everybody knows the money is in the U.S. Even Barry Hearn said it. Stop playing and fooling yourself. Cotto-Canelo generated more than those £15 PPV's over there.

Joshua vs. Wilder in Vegas is a higher gate and you can charge for PPV's here and there.

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The U.S. is a bigger country and has more financial resources to fund fights?

UK boxing is still more consistent

[redmish]

I can't believe your bragging about getting ripped off. Are you ****ing ******? Anybody can afford to watch a fight in the UK and that's how it should be. Boxing should be for everyone, not just the wealthy.

[soul_survivor]

AJ made more in his last fight than Wilder has in his entire career.

lol well yeah...

[Sparked_26]

I think there are just more people in the US with more disposable income.

It ain't gotta be about being ****** enough to get ripped off. Most of the ****** people in the US don't have the $100 for the f#cking PPV in the first place lol.

But lotsa mfers will drop $60 to $100 on a fight they barely care about just cuz they saw it advertised enough like some mfers will get the fries with their burger at a fast food joint cuz the order taker asked.

The prices of those PPV's is wild to me.

Unfathomable.

I have an ok job and spend money like water but I wouldn't drop £90 on a boxing PPV.

For us, if you're spending that much you might as well go to the event

[Eff Pandas]

The prices of those PPV's is wild to me.

Unfathomable.

I have an ok job and spend money like water but I wouldn't drop £90 on a boxing PPV.

How long has the UK been doing PPV's on a consistent basis?

Cuz its not like US PPV's went straight to $80-$100. I believe they started at like $34.95 or some sh^t like that back when TVKO/HBO PPV first got the ball rolling on a consistent basis with Holyfield vs Foreman. Til 1991 PPV's were a spread out few & far between.

And haven't they been raising the price with Joshua PPV's?

For us, if you're spending that much you might as well go to the event

We got a bigger country. Hard to go see fights in Vegas all the time unless you live in CA. And unless you live in NY/NJ you'd probably never travel to NYC for a fight. So thats not as viable an option for most people in the US without dropping a grand or so on travel probably.

[Sparked_26]

How long has the UK been doing PPV's on a consistent basis?

Cuz its not like US PPV's went straight to $80-$100. I believe they started at like $34.95 or some sh^t like that back when TVKO/HBO PPV first got the ball rolling on a consistent basis with Holyfield vs Foreman. Til 1991 PPV's were a spread out few & far between.

And haven't they been raising the price with Joshua PPV's?



We got a bigger country. Hard to go see fights in Vegas all the time unless you live in CA. And unless you live in NY/NJ you'd probably never travel to NYC for a fight. So thats not as viable an option for most people in the US without dropping a grand or so on travel probably.

Yeah I was going to mention the size of the US possibly allowing for the prices of PPV. Here you can just drive from Manchester to London or from either to Cardiff.

But yeah the whole PPV thing is an American concept really. I couldn't tell you when PPV first happened here.

I want to say Lennox Lewis but I'm not sure.

I don't think that price point can shift much above £20 here. Nobody would bother with it.

[Tygshsu]

I'll do a over/under bet with you if this fight gets made next. It'll for sure do over 350k imo. Or Hearn isn't as good a promoter as I think.

That said it probably won't happen cuz I don't think Hearn wants it to happen next.

Their is no real evidence or metrics to go on that it will do better than Andre Ward v Serge Kovalev in 2016.The only thing i am hearing is "they are heavyweights" which is not evidence.This fight needs more building.

[Larry the boss]

why dont you put up some figures of wilders earnings and gates....

Because for some reason people try to compare Joshua to Mayweather