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Dana White Reportedly Planning To Make $500M 10 Fight Offer To Joshua

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  • #31
    Joshua won't sign because White will make him foight Wilder lmao.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
      i thought MMA for obvious reasons but is dana white a boxing promoter now?
      Idk if he's got his promoters license for boxing or not. I heard he was trying to get one awhile back. May or may not come to pass.

      I know he had to get some MMA promoters license last year for that Dana White Contenders show as they weren't officially UFC fights & apparently the UFC promoters license wasn't in Dana's name specifically.

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      • #33
        It's funny because after Wilder was talking about a white man milking the cow I was thinking if you could say that about anyone in reality it's Dana White milking all UFC fighters in general. Them guys get paid peanuts and it's pretty much all in house for him.

        I'd be surprised if Dana White is willing to pay so much with that in mind but what a way to break into the boxing scene if he can pull it off.
        Last edited by Caught Square; 03-21-2018, 06:55 PM.

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        • #34
          This will go down well with the UFC guys who battle to put food on the table, while having to wear that stupid reebok **** and miss out on sponsorship money.

          Anywho, take this stuff with a grain of salt. There's one MASSIVE fact that so many people gloss over and can't comprehend - Dana White is NOT the UFC. He is a minority owner and a glorified mouth piece. He does not make the decisions. That's why 98% of what comes out of his mouth, doesn't come to fruition.

          A deal of this magnitude would be driven by WME-IMG and the TV Network(s) - Dana is just a face.

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          • #35
            He should take it. The only 8-figure opponents he can earn against will be Wilder and Fury. Even if he had a trilogy with each of them he likely earns about $300M for those six fights and that is best case scenario. After that who is left? And if he should lose his first fight with Wilder and then lose the rematch his stock will plummet.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
              Whats that got to do with this? The UFC isn't having a going outta business sale. I'd assume Zuffa Boxing will have its own budget & be its own company apart from the UFC if they share a TV deal in whole or partially.



              Who's the biggest draw if not Canelo? Canelo's more worldwide. He's got 80 gazillion Mexicans watching all his fights.
              Point being if Dana said the UFC is going to be bigger then the NFL and he believed his words to be true there would be no reason to cross over into a sport that he said was dead.

              When Canelo brings in 90k live bodies to watch him fight then he would be at least as big of a draw as Joshua

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              • #37
                Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View Post
                This will go down well with the UFC guys who battle to put food on the table, while having to wear that stupid reebok **** and miss out on sponsorship money.
                Everybody says that, but most combat sports guys across the board are struggling. Most low level pro sports guys are struggling. And I got issues with anyone saying anyone making 6 digits or more a year are somehow struggling to put food on the table.

                The Reebok sh^t is legit. The fighters for sure got f#cked there. And it took some personality from fighters lowering their value in other ways I'd argue.

                A deal of this magnitude would be driven by WME-IMG and the TV Network(s) - Dana is just a face.
                Sure. Dana's the President of the UFC. He's got reins just like any President of any other company. That should go without saying. But if this is true then I'm sure WME-IMG signed off on it & why wouldn't they?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post



                  Does he take it & sign with someone unproven in boxing promotion or nah?
                  Is it guaranteed money, or is some options deal? If it's guaranteed money, Matchroom Sport likely ends up having to offer Joshua a piece of everything (boxing, darts, snooker, rugby, etc) to compete.

                  If it's an option deal, Anthony Joshua can tell Dana White to go and suck his own dick.

                  Floyd cherished his independence once he got it and, outside of maybe his deal with Haymon, he kept everything on a fight-by-fight basis. Showtime/CBS lays out $250m and Floyd gives them 6 fights and basically three years (the deal worked out so well that Floyd is basically locked in with Showtime/CBS on a handshake/first-rights deal for anything that he would consider doing in combat sports for however long he even thinks of fighting).

                  10 fights for Anthony Joshua basically gets you 4 years; $500m in hand basically guarantees that White gets the chance.

                  Now, how White makes up for the loss of the Sky platform in the UK, the possible loss of the Showtime platform, and then building the live event infrastructure on his own, nevermind the fact that UFC has no boxers of it's own (with the silos being what they are) is on him, but even breaking even on such a deal is going to take some doing.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 2fast2strong View Post
                    Point being if Dana said the UFC is going to be bigger then the NFL and he believed his words to be true there would be no reason to cross over into a sport that he said was dead.
                    Sh^t takes time, but with the worldwide potential of MMA idk how it doesn't reach that sooner or later.

                    And the NFL didn't become the NFL overnight. The NFL was around 30+ years before it became The Sport in the US. And thats when there was less competition for our time then today. Today the NFL couldn't become the NFL probably with all the things trying to steer people away to other things or it'd take longer than 30+ years to do so.

                    When Canelo brings in 90k live bodies to watch him fight then he would be at least as big of a draw as Joshua
                    Whats the revenue on Joshua's fights? I'd be surprised if $ for $ Joshua outranks Canelo.

                    The business works different in the US with casino money. Guys get paid better to fight in smaller venues by all the casinos. If Joshua was in the US he wouldn't sell 90k either cuz he'd be fighting at T-Mobile like every other draw for 1/5 of the audience.

                    And wait til they get that 60k(?) arena here built. Canelo or Spence or maybe even Joshua if he comes to the states but whoever it is killing it in 3 years will be selling out that place + destroying previous all time boxing revenue records.

                    Does Joshua got 18M or w/e people watching his fights on TV + selling equal or better PPV's at a higher price?

                    Come on this really ain't in dispute unless you are ignoring drawing power that includes the price tag on said seats which takes away the most important aspect of it. Canelo could sell out a 120k stadium with Joshua ticket prices I'd bet.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                      Is it guaranteed money, or is some options deal? If it's guaranteed money, Matchroom Sport likely ends up having to offer Joshua a piece of everything (boxing, darts, snooker, rugby, etc) to compete.
                      With the fickleness of HW boxing I'd be surprised if ANYONE is offering ANYONE a 10 fight half a billion dollar deal.

                      I'm sure it'd look like 99% of boxing contracts where you are taking a paycut if you lose & the deal could end at any time.

                      Floyd cherished his independence once he got it and, outside of maybe his deal with Haymon, he kept everything on a fight-by-fight basis.
                      Well yea I agree with you here. This is what Joshua SHOULD do if he's being smart. There is no reason at all to be locked in with anyone. If he's with Matchroom he can stay with Matchroom just minus any sort of long term contract.

                      Now, how White makes up for the loss of the Sky platform in the UK, the possible loss of the Showtime platform, and then building the live event infrastructure on his own, nevermind the fact that UFC has no boxers of it's own (with the silos being what they are) is on him, but even breaking even on such a deal is going to take some doing.
                      If they get Joshua I bet they find some other guys a couple levels down that join up. After a deal like that is made I bet the money alone should get everyone who's free or soon to be free talking to Dana. That would legitimize them like a mfer.

                      If Joshua were to sign with Dana I'd assume they'd pivot strongly to the US first off (immediately or soon after) & idk why the f#ck Sky wouldn't want a piece of Joshua still Hearn/Matchroom sh^tty deal or not.

                      I still don't get why Sky gave Hearn THAT much power, but I bet they'd fire his a$$ from that gig to keep Joshua PPV fights in the UK if they had to. F#ck showing Kell Brook fights.

                      As to the US TV situation thats so up in the air its massively speculative how that lands & what things could look like cuz the streaming sh^t. Streaming sh^t is going to make a play towards the UFC & Boxing sooner or later as they will with all live sports cuz its a superior form of viewing live sports & there is money to be made. So who knows where the UFC could be showing up in 2019...maybe FOX still...maybe Amazon....maybe HBO...who f#cking knows.

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