Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin-Canelo Alvarez: Positive or Negative?

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  • Boxfan7819
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    #61
    There is too much money involved it will still go. Boxing is too corrupt.

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    • donnyriz
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      #62
      I'd say if the fight goes exactly like the first one did (not sure how it could be much different..), GGG has to get the decision. This story has been a bad look for a sport that been on a major public rise the past 2 years. Last thing they need is a "cheater" walking away with a controversial victory.

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      • Simurgh
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        #63
        Originally posted by hitking
        I keep seeing folks say Canelo needs to provide a clear explanation about where he got the meat. Exactly how is he supposed to do that? A large percentage of people eat meat every meal. And I guarantee you 99.9% if those people can only tell you what grocery store or restaurant they got the meat from. There’s a million steps that take place, and meat touches a million hands in between it being a living creature and hitting your dinner plate. Canelo is no different. The small levels found in his system are consistent with what would be found if someone ate contaminated meat. That should be the end of it. Especially since it’s been an ongoing issue with Mexican fighters.
        To my understanding the half-life time of clenbuterol is 24 to 48hr, which means whatever he ate it was recent.

        I am sure canelo is keeping a diary of his diet 2 moths before one of the biggest fights in his life.

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        • TonyGe
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          #64
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          Tony, it comes down to styles.....

          1) Canelo shows improvement EVERY SINGLE FIGHT.....
          ..... Golovkin, does not..... if anything, he has looked limited and flat since he stepped up in competition with Brook

          2) Canelo is a thinking fighter who relies on boxing skills to ply his trade..... Golovkin relies on pressure/power

          Canelo is clearly a more well-rounded fighter than Golovkin, he has more to his game and he has better skills..... so I am positive that he will make the better adjustments..... EXACTLY like Ward did against Kovalev

          you can attribute those improvements to whatever you like, and I am sure you will





          that is just naive..... insinuating that Golovkin " forgot " to work the body, is quite frankly ridiculous

          what, he forgot to work the body with Jacobs as well huh ?

          Golovkin did everything that he could in both of those fights, the control of distance and threat of a counter made Golovkin keep them hands at home

          as usual..... the better fighter will make the better adjustments

          you are in for a big surprise
          I didn't insinuate that he forgot to work the body. I said he didn't work the body. He may of been leery of the counters possibly or other reasons. That isn't going to happen this time. Where are these improvements Canelo is supposedly making. He looked lost against Golovkin.
          Last edited by TonyGe; 03-20-2018, 04:52 AM.

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          • Boksfan
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            #65
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            why ?

            what changed that will make tentative Golovkin, un-tentative Golovkin?

            he was also tentative with Danny Jacobs

            it was the control of distance and threat from a counter that made Golovkin tentative in those fights

            we told you guys that Golovkin had been fighting scrubs





            there is no documented PED useage

            there is a positive test result that 4x experts stated was consistent with meat contamination

            when Pac avoided/obstructed drug tests, did it affect his legacy?

            are Pac's wins over Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley, "suspect"?

            if Canelo tests clean for the remainder of his career, it will be forgotten..... Povetkin, Ortiz, Browne, all tested positive more than once, and nobody even mentions it

            I get your point, but you are going way overboard

            Canelo volunteered for testing, heading into a super-fight..... Pac KILLED a super-fight by refusing to test for FIVE YEARS

            that is NOT the same thing
            Clenelo Alvaroid is a drug cheat and nuthugger like you won't change it, go suck his balls some more

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            • Graz
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              #66
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              why ?

              what changed that will make tentative Golovkin, un-tentative Golovkin?

              he was also tentative with Danny Jacobs

              it was the control of distance and threat from a counter that made Golovkin tentative in those fights

              we told you guys that Golovkin had been fighting scrubs





              there is no documented PED useage

              there is a positive test result that 4x experts stated was consistent with meat contamination

              when Pac avoided/obstructed drug tests, did it affect his legacy?

              are Pac's wins over Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley, "suspect"?

              if Canelo tests clean for the remainder of his career, it will be forgotten..... Povetkin, Ortiz, Browne, all tested positive more than once, and nobody even mentions it

              I get your point, but you are going way overboard

              Canelo volunteered for testing, heading into a super-fight..... Pac KILLED a super-fight by refusing to test for FIVE YEARS

              that is NOT the same thing
              I think he was tentative with Canelo because he respected Canelo. As the fight progressed he loosened up and IMO the rematch will start like round 13. Are you saying they didn't find PEDs in Canelo's blood? If that's true I'll agree with you.

              I don't agree that he was tentative with Jacobs. Clearly Golovkin's competition has improved and he has adjusted accordingly. He is still undefeated.

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #67
                if GGG had stepped up to fight REAL competition earlier, he would have got old sooner


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                • Muz
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  1st Pednelo wasnt even training yet. 2nd the WBA does the same EXACT VADA testing as the WBC. Go look at their forms? They look like they were types up by the exact same lawyer....
                  You really are a moron. Don't you understand how steroids work? You take them before official training so as to bypass the drug testing. You still get benefits of steroids long after the cycling ends. Canelo and Ward and Floyd have all used this routine to juice up then announce the fight so as to be totally able to pass drug testing while having used steroids before testing. You keep your gains through training .

                  Only fighters clean are those that are verified to be year round drug tested. They are

                  GGG
                  Kovalev
                  Lomachenko
                  The ones who never were year round tested are
                  Floyd
                  Ward
                  Canelo

                  Learn some facts.

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    If Lara would of just threw and landed a lil more he would/should of won. That was a typical Lara fight?? Makes fights closer than they should be. He clearly could out box Canelo.
                    I don't like Canelo but I thought he edged Lara for the exact resaons you gave. He didn't throw enough punches in the later rounds. He gave the fight away.

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      I don't like Canelo but I thought he edged Lara for the exact resaons you gave. He didn't throw enough punches in the later rounds. He gave the fight away.
                      That's why I also had Canelo winning.

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