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If Golovkin retired today, would he be a HOFer?
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Originally posted by Johnston View PostWhat dictates who the a and b side are who brings in the money. No one pays to see ward, he brings very little value. He went in with the idea he was a side and wouldn't budge, truth is if he was so serious about it he would have been reasonable.
He fought in a division that most think is weak but constantly won. People like to bring up Jacobs but facts are he put him down and won a clear decision as a result. A good % of people believe he beat canelo. So the guy steps up and instead of relying on his power he boxes and out-points guys we should treat those as loses? That's ultimately would people try to do
Golovkin dominated subpar opponents for the most of his career. Many insinuated that he was just too good, which made these great fighters look ordinary. But the first time he faced a worthy, NON p4p fighter, he didn't look that dominant, which negated that whole argument.
Then came the Canelo fight. We can argue about judges, and we can argue about public opinion. But anybody who believes that was a landslide victory for Golovkin is either blind, biased, or simply doesn't know how to judge fights.
Therefore, 1 less than stellar victory against a non p4p fighter in Jacobs and a draw, albeit controversial, against a jr middleweight moving up doesn't look like a HOF career to me.
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Originally posted by Johnston View PostWhat dictates who the a and b side are who brings in the money. No one pays to see ward, he brings very little value. He went in with the idea he was a side and wouldn't budge, truth is if he was so serious about it he would have been reasonable.
He fought in a division that most think is weak but constantly won. People like to bring up Jacobs but facts are he put him down and won a clear decision as a result. A good % of people believe he beat canelo. So the guy steps up and instead of relying on his power he boxes and out-points guys we should treat those as loses? That's ultimately would people try to do
Gennady Golovkin -10,000
Dominic Wade +1600
That means you bet $100 on Wade and you win $1600
It also means you need to be $10,000 to win $100 if you pick Gennady to win.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/4/2...ez-chocolatito
Against Monroe Jr. the numbers were similar:
Golovkin victory are listed at -5000 while a Monroe win is listed at +2500
Bet $5,000 to win $100 for Gennady
Betting $100 on Willie gives you $2,500
http://www.sportsbetlistings.com/box...ediction/7324/
Gennady didn't want to fight Ward because he would've lost. It's honestly not rocket science.
THAT IS OKAY. NOBODY is UNBEATABLE. The problem was Gennady and Abel calling out all fighters from 154-168 and then taking it back when Ward accepted. Once Ward it accepted it became:
"Oh, we need 164"
"Oh, we're the A side...despite having never sold more than 97k PPV in Canada against Lemiuex...so David L sold the PPV...not Gennady"
"Andre Ward too much for me - yes gennady literally said that"
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I would say yes. The man was the unified MW champion and defended his belt over 15 times (I don't remember the exact number).
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Originally posted by SkillspayBills View PostI would say yes. The man was the unified MW champion and defended his belt over 15 times (I don't remember the exact number).
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