Wilder, Joshua, Fury!!! Who is boss?

[The plunger man]

No he did not, Joshua almost lost got knocked down and won with less points/ by knockout cant remember.

But Fury barely got touched and punched wlad all night and won massively on points

One was a close fight the other was a lop sided win. Wlad trained hard for both fights and always trains hard for any fight

you need to remove the name fury from your brain.....it was a disgusting fight to watch when fury faced klitchcko and must rank as one of the worst fights i have ever seen and then be blatantly avoided klitchcko 2 times in the rematch with fake injury's and mental illness.......joshua will take wilder apart brutally and as for fury he won't go beyond 6 rounds with Joshua.....tyson fury will never win a world title again

[PensionKiller]

I think AJ beat Wlad more impressively. The Wlad that fought AJ would have stopped Fury. Wilder looks Wild but there's method behind his craziness, he knows when to back off and when to go in for the kill and does so full throttle "come what may". If Wilder rocks AJ he isn't going to let him off the hook like Wlad did.

Fury negated Wlad with subtle movement and feints

[AlexKid]

you need to remove the name fury from your brain.....it was a disgusting fight to watch when fury faced klitchcko and must rank as one of the worst fights i have ever seen and then be blatantly avoided klitchcko 2 times in the rematch with fake injury's and mental illness.......joshua will take wilder apart brutally and as for fury he won't go beyond 6 rounds with joshua.....tyson fury will never win a world title again

steroids or no steroids he beat wlad with ease

hes not going anywhere

[kimboslice7]

This is a fair point. Not sure how much it improved him or how long he took them for, you could see by the fight that he cheated himself though, because he probably could have won that naturally but who knows. Also at this level who knows who is taking what

will never no.i would have even put Ortiz or Alex P in but there drug cheats to.there all in embarrassment to boxing.

[Kezzer]

At this moment in time it is clearly Joshua. He holds 3 of the 5 belts (including IBO); and whoever wins from Joshua or Parker will rightfully sit as #1 heavyweight in the world in my view. Fury has to come vack And prove himself and Wilder isn’t in a dissimilar position - the fights can and will happen to decide it though.

The one thing we are clear on is that questions remain on all -

Fury - had one “good” fight against klitshko; but has he really had anything else? Was that just klitschko massively underperforming?

Wilder - had maybe two top fights if your being generous and has been rocked not only in both those fights but also against some lesser opposition such as Molina.

Parker - I include him in this list, but does he have the punch power? The fight against Joshua will tell us a lot.

Joshua - took a big punch by klitschko, looked rocked temporarily against whyte. I’m not so much going to question his chin, but more his defensive skills- does he allow himself to be caught too easily?

[lex_fugitive]

Why is Fury in the conversation? What about George Foreman or Mike Tyson? Wilder and AJ are professional boxers. Fury is a carnie. Fury might be the boss of the ring toss game, but that's about it.

Fury was fine, talking all kinds of smack, then he saw Wilder fight. He got in the ring afterward. Wilder said let's do it. Fury immediately "retired". Wilder literally made Fury retire. That is a fact. Fury is done, Wilder ruined him mentally. After Fury witnessed Wilder in action, he was quick with the no mas. It is pretty sad to see a heavyweight champion simply retire before he is 30 just to avoid the other top heavyweight.

AJ isn't in any hurry to fight Wilder, but at least he wasn't scared into depression. Wilder put Fury in a mental hospital and a rehab clinic without even getting in the ring with him. Just imagine if they actually fought. Yea, if Fury is depressed now, he would kill himself after getting in the ring with Wilder- if Wilder didn't do it for him.

[kafkod]

Fury beat wlad much more impressively than Joshua did! But he was on PED's? Did the PED's win him the fight or his skill and physical attributes win it?

Wilder can knock any of them out! Huge power in the straight right. A bit rough around the edges esp with his long hooks.

Joshua is potent in power and skill, he also has the character of a champion.



My guess is if Fury is close to how good he was when he beat Wlad wo the roids and I think he is is based on his other fights, then he will be the best. He has alot of speed length defensive skill, durability, intelligence and good endurance. Hes unorthodox. I think all these factors are wayyy too much for wilder and Joshua. I might actually make a bet on it, for the 1st time. Im so certain he is the best because hwo do you prepare for such a freak? Hes like a southpaw they are hard to prepare for because they have an experience advantage, the same goes for very unusual style types or very unusual attribute types. Also he just has an array of physical gifts a bigger collection than the others even though he has little power.

Who do you think will win between Joshua and Deontay? I will not be betting on this one. Too close to call. Id give the edge to Joshua because hes better overall skill wise and has plenty of power himself, I feel he may take advantage when wilder throws his crappy long hooks/gets wild. But Deontay has huge power and Joshua like many English fighters has lousy head movement could be a recipe for disaster,

Fury wasn't on PEDs when he fought Wlad. He tested positive for a trace amount of nandrolone once, while training for Christian Hammer, which UKAD took no action on at the time.

UKAD say they tested him 7 times between the Hammer and Wlad fights and he was clean every time. He was also being tested by VADA during his camp for Wlad.

[Robbie Barrett]

Fury's performance against Wlad wasn't impressive at all. It was more Wlad losing than Fury winning. Wlad gave him that fight, he held back thinking he was going to get an opportunity that never came. The Wlad that fought Joshua beats Fury. I had no doubt Wlad was going to win the rematch.

[kafkod]

Fury was fine, talking all kinds of smack, then he saw Wilder fight. He got in the ring afterward. Wilder said let's do it. Fury immediately "retired". Wilder literally made Fury retire. That is a fact. Fury is done, Wilder ruined him mentally. After Fury witnessed Wilder in action, he was quick with the no mas. It is pretty sad to see a heavyweight champion simply retire before he is 30 just to avoid the other top heavyweight.

AJ isn't in any hurry to fight Wilder, but at least he wasn't scared into depression. Wilder put Fury in a mental hospital and a rehab clinic without even getting in the ring with him. Just imagine if they actually fought. Yea, if Fury is depressed now, he would kill himself after getting in the ring with Wilder- if Wilder didn't do it for him.

Are you trolling there .. or are you really dumb enough to believe that juvenile bullcrap?

Tyson Fury was so terrified after watching Wilder getting clowned for 9 rounds by a C level Polish cruiserweight that he climbed into the ring, on his own, got in Wilder's face and called him out to fight.

Yeah .. ok.

[Robbie Barrett]

Fury wasn't on PEDs when he fought Wlad. He tested positive for a trace amount of nandrolone once, while training for Christian Hammer, which UKAD took no action on at the time.

UKAD say they tested him 7 times between the Hammer and Wlad fights and he was clean every time. He was also being tested by VADA during his camp for Wlad.

Source? I don't believe he was. They were doing VADA for the rematch, not the first fight.