Who was more overrated--Ali or Floyd?

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  • Elroy The Great
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    #71
    Originally posted by Szef
    Yeah that or maybe you should reread this thread's title
    reread it and asked for further instructions that never came.

    if TS thinks only a few guys are above may or ali, then how overrated can either guy be

    there are others who feel this is not the best way to view either guy.

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    • iamboxing
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      #72
      No amount of hyperbole by fans can ever do justice to how amazing Ali was. No other fighter was more revered by fellow boxers and even his harshest critics had to concede he was the greatest of all time. Those who disagree are in the minority.

      Mayweather, on the other hand, declared himself TBE and received a backlash of hate from boxers and fans alike. Those who still insist he's the TBE are a smug, loud vocal minority who think pure defensive boxing and jabbing your way to victory should be on the same level as someone who took risks and entertained the masses. It's not. Never will be.

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        #73
        Originally posted by iamboxing
        No amount of hyperbole by fans can ever do justice to how amazing Ali was. No other fighter was more revered by fellow boxers and even his harshest critics had to concede he was the greatest of all time. Those who disagree are in the minority.

        Mayweather, on the other hand, declared himself TBE and received a backlash of hate from boxers and fans alike. Those who still insist he's the TBE are a smug, loud vocal minority who think pure defensive boxing and jabbing your way to victory should be on the same level as someone who took risks and entertained the masses. It's not. Never will be.
        so ill ask you, how many would you honestly place above may ?

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          #74
          Originally posted by Elroy The Great
          so ill ask you, how many would you honestly place above may ?
          Duran, SRL, Hearns, RJJ...all better fighters. All Mayweather did most of the time was outpoint his way to victory which all the aforementioned could have done easily, but boring the people who came to watch them was worse to them than actually making a fight and possibly losing. Tommy and SRL could pitter patter their way to victory against DLH and Pacquiao without even trying.

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            #75
            Originally posted by iamboxing
            Duran, SRL, Hearns, RJJ...all better fighters. All Mayweather did most of the time was outpoint his way to victory which all the aforementioned could have done easily, but boring the people who came to watch them was worse to them than actually making a fight and possibly losing. Tommy and SRL could pitter patter their way to victory against DLH and Pacquiao without even trying.
            seriously...go look at those guys resumes. how long before any of them fought a live body.

            if i had to rate them on skill alone -

            rjj
            srl
            hearns
            duran

            you are partial towards punchers. your prerogative. i like those sobs too. that wont make me ''hate'' a guy whos clearly the more superior guy in the ring.

            if you wanted power may, you dont look at his ww record. prior to, he was ending people at a respectable click. i hate using the word if BUT if may had dependable hands, im more than certain his ko % would be higher.

            lastly, with pitty patting....ww may was always at the power disadvantage. everyone he fought were either naturally bigger and/or had power yet may schooled them.

            a fight fans hate for may wont allow them to be honest. for every criticism aimed at him, can be aimed at almost everyone.

            yeah, may is egotistical and not in an enduring way. boo hoo

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              #76
              prime ali would be humiliated today. everyone knows it.

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              • Vasyl’s dad
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                #77
                Originally posted by Elroy The Great
                seriously...go look at those guys resumes. how long before any of them fought a live body.

                if i had to rate them on skill alone -

                rjj
                srl
                hearns
                duran

                you are partial towards punchers. your prerogative. i like those sobs too. that wont make me ''hate'' a guy whos clearly the more superior guy in the ring.

                if you wanted power may, you dont look at his ww record. prior to, he was ending people at a respectable click. i hate using the word if BUT if may had dependable hands, im more than certain his ko % would be higher.

                lastly, with pitty patting....ww may was always at the power disadvantage. everyone he fought were either naturally bigger and/or had power yet may schooled them.

                a fight fans hate for may wont allow them to be honest. for every criticism aimed at him, can be aimed at almost everyone.

                yeah, may is egotistical and not in an enduring way. boo hoo
                Lmao at this nonsense. Sharmba was bigger than Floyd? Hatton? Marquez? Not even Manny was bigger. Judah wasn’t bigger and neither was Guerrero. What exactly makes Cotto bigger? Shane wasnt even bigger. You’re making these guys out to be King Kong, Godzilla, Superman and Andre the Giant with floyd being Mighty Mouse. I thought this facade of floyd being this little itty bitty guy was finished long ago. Nah uh. Not on my watch pal.

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                  #78
                  Probably been said a few times, but I cba to read through the whole thread, what is overrated about Ali?

                  He said he was the greatest. He is now considered almost universally to be the greatest HW who ever lived. He himself acknowledges he wasnt the GOAT P4P, he said that was Robinson in the interview I have heard. So we know he was talking about himself as the greatest HW of all time. Which he is.

                  Mayweather calling himself TBE is almost laughable. Not to say he isnt a great great fighter, the best of his era. But the more you find out about the careers of guys like SRR, Langford, Greb, Armstrong, Charles etc the more you realise just how preposterously great they were in their eras.

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                  • Elroy The Great
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by CleneloAlvaroid
                    Lmao at this nonsense. Sharmba was bigger than Floyd? Hatton? Marquez? Not even Manny was bigger. Judah wasn’t bigger and neither was Guerrero. What exactly makes Cotto bigger? Shane wasnt even bigger. You’re making these guys out to be King Kong, Godzilla, Superman and Andre the Giant with floyd being Mighty Mouse. I thought this facade of floyd being this little itty bitty guy was finished long ago. Nah uh. Not on my watch pal.
                    [IMG]https://media2.*****.com/media/26AHLBZUC1n53ozi8/*****.gif[/IMG]

                    nevertheless, this is a silly thread.

                    have fun

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Elroy The Great
                      [IMG]https://media2.*****.com/media/26AHLBZUC1n53ozi8/*****.gif[/IMG]

                      nevertheless, this is a silly thread.

                      have fun

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