Comments Thread For: WBC Doctor on Canelo: Everything Points To Contamination

[bluemax]

Good to know! It your a juicing fighter just take a few random trips to mexico and make it known you LOVE mexician food. All will be forgiven. VADA testing is apparently only to be taken seriously for some fighters. You no longer really "fail" You just get a value you must spout an excuse for. Anyone notice how even before there was an investigation the ranking bodies who were worried about their sanctioning fees were holding news conferences declaring Canelo innocent! What a completely crooked system! You fail but you don't fail. Why even check for a drug level if by what we're hearing now means nothing.

[Shrap]

No it doesn't. It points to clenbuterol being found in his system. If this WBC "doctor" were legit he'd know this doesn't provide any evidence as to the source of the clenbuterol, only that Canelo has ingested it.

I advise everyone to keep countering these "statements" on forums, social media and any other platforms so the WBC cannot sweep this away. Corruption in boxing is right in front of us. Something has to be done.

[1hourRun]

Yeah I'm not going to believe the words of a doctor on the WBC payroll, get back to me when someone with credible credentials from a independent source examines the evidence to determine if Canelo used masking agents.

[HURTFEELINGS]

So it apparently was "low levels of of the banned substance clenbuterol" and he has negative tests since. But you know forum posters KNOW MORE than doctors, trainers, judges, refs, AND BOXERS.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Everything except the truth. It all adds up to him being a cheater.
He Never listed beef in his diet and he started a fake beef with the wbc because he was scared of the clean program.

[kafkod]

There is not a specialist that say that Canelo is a cheater.

Only the ****** haters from here.

That's because a specialist can't make a decision like that in such a short space of time without examining Canelo and looking at all the evidence for and against him.

The WBC Dr is obviously saying what the WBC Prez wants him to say, which makes his opinion worthless.

[MrShakeAndBake]

Yea well if some mexican fernandez hernadez says it, it must be true... f-kin cheats

[Shrap]

So it apparently was "low levels of of the banned substance clenbuterol" and he has negative tests since. But you know forum posters KNOW MORE than doctors, trainers, judges, refs, AND BOXERS.

Yes, a substance is metabolised after it is ingested. Therefore, it will not show up in tests after that metabolisation is complete. That's some pretty simple biology right there. It doesn't change the fact that you put it into your system in the first place.

These articles and quotes either prove we actually do know more than all these figures, or they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Which do you think it is?

[WesternChamp]

was anyone expecting them to say canelo cheated?

[bigdunny1]

So it apparently was "low levels of of the banned substance clenbuterol" and he has negative tests since. But you know forum posters KNOW MORE than doctors, trainers, judges, refs, AND BOXERS.

So far every drug expert has stated that the amounts were extremely low and consistent with levels seen from meat contamination case studies. Look what Memo had to say

https://www.am.com.mx/2018/03/07/general-nacional/deportes/por-este-motivo-habria-saul-alvarez-dado-positivo-en-clembuterol-443139-443139#ixzz59CFfL8SU

The contamination of Saul Alvarez was due to consume meat, said Angel Guillermo Heredia.

The physical trainer analyzed on his own the concentrations of clenbuterol that the "Canelo" threw in the voluntary tests carried out by the VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) on February 17 and 20 in Jalisco.

The result for the Guadalajara man was 0.6 to 0.8 nanograms per milliliter in the first, and 0.06 to 0.08 in the second.

"When doing a mathematical calculation, taking into account what is the half-life of clenbuterol, which is 36 hours, depends on the human being, the activity of the athlete or metabolism of the person, taking those factors, I made an exponential equation and I It gives me an accuracy of 99 percent that amount (of the 'Canelo') is according to consumption of contaminated meat.

"In my opinion, neutral, and as a scientist and with morals, as a professional, with all the experience I have, it is practically due to contamination, since the levels of 'Canelo' are too low, what happens is that there are many problems of clenbuterol in Mexico, "Heredia added.

"There are cases above 20 or 25, or up to 40 nanograms per milliliter, and they are clearly taking that substance as doping, and one point is that the tests were in Mexico, 'Canelo' ate that meat in Mexico."
If today I took a pill, the minimum dose of clenbuterol, which is 0.02 milligrams, means that when I take that pill I will have an amount of 20 ng / ml in the urine, and after 36 hours I will have 10 ng / ml, and after another 36 hours I will have 5 thousand.

Then, the "Canelo" had less than 1 ng / ml, and even lower 3 days later, so it goes according to what is metabolism of clenbuterol, it is nothing, and 'Canelo' for me is clean.