Roach is the most overrated trainer in history

[mexicanstyle]

Lot of breat trainers and coaches never fought in thei life their simply smart influential people who learned the sport not by being fighters but by being great minds who were raised around the sport and became great minds and trainers Angelo dundee

[McNulty]

Hasn't he won trainer of the year like 7 times or something? He must be doing something right. Also, he changed Pac from a guy with basically one punch and fast hands into an incredibly versatile fighter who became an ATG. Gotta give the man his props.

That's more of a result of matchmaking. Pacquiao is the same exact fighter he was when he was a featherweight.

As someone who been on the mits with Freddie before I can tell you you’re full of ****. He thought me some good combinations and pointed out a lot of things other trainers never told me, he will also tag you with the mit hard if your slipping, and besides that he’s track record speaks for itself if he was a crappy trainer he wouldn’t have all these world class fighters flocking to him dumbass.

Just because you've had sub-par trainers and didn't know pro-level combinations doesn't mean Freddie Roach is a great trainer.

My second to last trainer showed me some good combinations too, but as a trainer he wasn't that good. He could only get you so high.

You sound like you wanted any opportunity to list your experience lol Ray Corso

Corso is someone you should listen to. Not many of these guys on the site.

I have no experience? Assumptions make you look ******. I fought out of the Sixth Street Gym in AZ and fought in the Silver Gloves.

Your logic of "u must be a pro to criticize a pro" is ******ed and old. Roach is a celebrity trainer, I have been to Wildcard and he's not a true boxing coach. He teaches some good footwork, that's it. And he gets his fighters knocked out cold.

Silver Gloves is a kids tournament. Ray never said u must be a pro to criticize a pro he simply asked what your credentials were. There is a very big difference. Like I told the guy ^ there, not everyone is a Boxingscene troll. I would listen closely to what he has to say. He's been around the real scene for a long time. Longer than your Daddy has been alive. Just because I disagree with him, doesn't make him ******.

[Make U Cry]

Silver Gloves is a kids tournament. Ray never said u must be a pro to criticize a pro he simply asked what your credentials were. There is a very big difference. Like I told the guy ^ there, not everyone is a Boxingscene troll. I would listen closely to what he has to say. He's been around the real scene for a long time. Longer than your Daddy has been alive. Just because I disagree with him, doesn't make him ******.

Kids tournament? Any of those "kids" would beat the hell out of someone like you. And as for being around the real scene for a long time, so has Larry merchant and every other old geezer. Doesn't mean ****.