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Comments Thread For: Regis Prograis Destroys Julius Indongo in Two Rounds
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Knew this kid was the truth, been rocking with him for a year now.
This also shows how overrated Crawford's run at 140 was.
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Originally posted by Dr.Cool View PostI don't think he has proven it at all. Dude was 160, and took him longer to put away Indongo than this prospect did. First, Bud has had a major weight advantage in all his fights. Canelo size difference. Literally, putting on 20 pounds from the weigh in.
Second, who the hell has Bud fought that justifies a ranking on the p4p list? Indongo? Postol? Gamboa? Get out of here. Bud has fought no elite opponent EVER. That is an undeniable fact. Making lower divisions that are incredibly weak while young, doesn't make one great. AB did it too. He got put on the p4p rankings too. Then he fought a top opponent for the first time in Maidana. Then the second time he fought a top opponent was Porter. The third time he did was Mikey.
Beating Brook in his hometown, by breaking his face and then humiliating and emasculating Peterson like Spence did is worthy of a higher ranking than a guy the same size whose best win is Postol or Indongo. In fact, Thurman is probably smaller than Bud and I would place him above Crawford also, as Porter and DSG are more impressive than Postol and Indongo.
Bud might be a top p4p fighter. So might Prograis. I'm saying no one is the #1 or #2 p4p fighter for beating a bum like Indongo. Fighters should have to earn their spot on p4p rankings. Bud's p4p spot has been bought and paid for by TR, not from his resume.
He also cleaned out 135 by beating the #1, 2 & 3 including Gamboa who was the best at 130. He then won every belt at 140 in dominant fashion.
Crawford proved beyond a doubt at two weight classes he was the class of the division while losing possibly only 3-4 rounds the whole time.
He really couldn't have done any more. Now he's onto 147 where it will be harder.
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Originally posted by Afi23 View PostI'm not hating but how the hell did Indongo win 2 belts without getting clipped in the process!
Indongo's unorthodox style and length can cause problems, but his lack of balance and co-ordination were painfully obvious even from the Burns fight - we woulda seen it when he fought Troya too if that ish had gone on long enough.
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Originally posted by Afi23 View PostThanks! Actually, I've been waiting to see Prograis in action for awhile. I'd seen alot of quotes from him (he's been calling out alot of dudes) but I never really saw him fight. I must admit Prograis talks "slick" a bit.
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Prograis is legitimate, his skills and power are legit and he believes it which might be the most important thing. I saw Indongo vs Burns and Troyanovsky...Julius looked very good. Then he looked overawed against Bud and almost completely shopworn against Regis (getting dropped with jabs). Does that mean Indongo was very good, was overawed or is shopworn...I honestly don't know. Burns is probably shot, Troyanvsky probably has no chin and Bud and and Regis are legit but we can't use Julius as much of a litmus test. Regardless, I'm a fan of Prograis and look forward to watching him in the Future.
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Originally posted by Dr.Cool View PostI don't think he has proven it at all. Dude was 160, and took him longer to put away Indongo than this prospect did. First, Bud has had a major weight advantage in all his fights. Canelo size difference. Literally, putting on 20 pounds from the weigh in.
Second, who the hell has Bud fought that justifies a ranking on the p4p list? Indongo? Postol? Gamboa? Get out of here. Bud has fought no elite opponent EVER. That is an undeniable fact. Making lower divisions that are incredibly weak while young, doesn't make one great. AB did it too. He got put on the p4p rankings too. Then he fought a top opponent for the first time in Maidana. Then the second time he fought a top opponent was Porter. The third time he did was Mikey.
Beating Brook in his hometown, by breaking his face and then humiliating and emasculating Peterson like Spence did is worthy of a higher ranking than a guy the same size whose best win is Postol or Indongo. In fact, Thurman is probably smaller than Bud and I would place him above Crawford also, as Porter and DSG are more impressive than Postol and Indongo.
Bud might be a top p4p fighter. So might Prograis. I'm saying no one is the #1 or #2 p4p fighter for beating a bum like Indongo. Fighters should have to earn their spot on p4p rankings. Bud's p4p spot has been bought and paid for by TR, not from his resume.
Bud is a two-weight world champion and I don't think you can compare him (P4P) to Thurman who's only fought twice since July 2015.
And, don't call Indongo a bum. He may have lost 2 on the bounce in devastating fashion but he is certainly not a bum. No boxer is.
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