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  • #71
    Originally posted by Bobby Shaw View Post
    The fact that he even thought about 50-50 at one time shows he is really delusional.
    Anyone who's achieving anything in the world is delusional. You gotta be, in particular people who are in a highly competitive environment like professional sports. Everyone else is working at Walmart or doing some other job they hate day in, day out. I got no problem with people who dream big & are a lil delusional.

    Joshua has to be delusional to or else he'd still be dealing drugs & doing dumb sh^t cuz how could he ever envision the path he took to get where he's at if he wasn't.

    Fair play to you if you think its a problematic thing. Agree to disagree.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
      Anyone who's achieving anything in the world is delusional. You gotta be, in particular people who are in a highly competitive environment like professional sports. Everyone else is working at Walmart or doing some other job they hate day in, day out. I got no problem with people who dream big & are a lil delusional.

      Joshua has to be delusional to or else he'd still be dealing drugs & doing dumb sh^t cuz how could he ever envision the path he took to get where he's at if he wasn't.

      Fair play to you if you think its a problematic thing. Agree to disagree.
      You don't have to be delusional to achieve big. Just have to know your potential. 50-50 for Wilder who doesn't fight on PPV is not potential but madness. Believe me the grade he takes ought to he from a good source.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Bobby Shaw View Post
        You don't have to be delusional to achieve big.
        Agree to disagree like I said.

        Although its not like its 100%, but nothing is 100% so that should go without saying. But being a lil delusional you are capable of great things when you aren't anywhere close to great things requires separating yourself from reality a lil bit with how most people will hate on your goals & try to shut you down, even those who love you often times, or whats supposed to happen isn't hurting your chances I know that much.

        And a lot of times you just need a lil delusion to jump that next bridge. You don't need a lot. But like for Joshua he just had to go from f#ck up to not being a f#ckup to boxing to Olympics to gold medal to pro to winning fights to title holder to simplify his trajectory. Its not just a jump from f#ck up to title holder.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Bad_Guy View Post
          I had Joshua edging the fight before I saw Wilder/Ortiz. After that fight, I am taking Wilder by TKO. Joshua is way too slow to beat Wilder, and, when Wilder connects, it will be lights out for AJ (despite being the more skilled fighter).
          You know zilch about boxing if you think joshua is to slow to catch wilder ....just go ask klitchcko who actually koed wilder 2 times in sparring lol....wilder besides his punch and awkwardness i see nothing else that troubles joshua...bad balance , no defence and has no left hand.......i guarantee you now joshua brutally knocks out wilder and when the dust settles i wiill repost to you and remind you of this post

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          • #75
            Don't mess this big payday up.......

            Marinating in the HW division is very dangerous because you're dealing with +230lb guys with real power. AJ and Wilder need each other because honestly nobody cares about the other HWs. I'm not taking anything away for the other guys careers or accomplishments I'm just stating fans only concerned with those two getting in the ring. Anybody else fighting may be nice money however fighting in Scheffield will be a massive payday.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
              The fights THEMSELVES show Wilder is a bigger risk of losing ,even if you deny that .Not just getting stunned /knocked down in pro ranks more but rnds LOST .

              Wilders style has no advantage against Joshuas aggressive counter punch style , hes going to EASILY throw over Wilders lead arm ,over his shoulder and connect with a right and thats end game bc Wilders chin will NOT stand up to many of Joshua power shots.


              Ortiz outside of Joshua has the BEST chance ,but we wont be seeing an Ortiz rematch again . Joshua will fight him if Ortiz becomes a marketable fight in the other sanctioning body .


              "There is a video of Emmanuel Steward talking about the upcoming fighters and he spoke about Fury and Wilder. I think his prediction is gradually coming to pass. "

              The above is YOUR quote .


              The problem is Joshua wasnt in the picture at the time he made it . In fact there is no way Steward would have picked against Joshua NOW anyway , it would have been his dream fighter ,

              Which is a 6'6 super HW with power and speed who likes close range yet able to control from a distance and listens to instructions like a sponge and actually thrives on combination punching .

              Steward had no clue a guy this level at 240 plus was the one who he actually warned Klitchko about and that Wlad would have his defining fight before his career was over !

              Wilder would be unteachable to Stewards approach and would not like Stewards hard lined approach to training for refining skills bc thats not what Wilders abilities incorporates .
              How did Joshua almost get KO'd by Whyte and Klitschko plus basically get taken the distance by lil Takam with all of this speed and power?

              You do realize that Wilder is primarily a counter puncher as well right?

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              • #77
                Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                You know zilch about boxing if you think joshua is to slow to catch wilder ....just go ask klitchcko who actually koed wilder 2 times in sparring lol....wilder besides his punch and awkwardness i see nothing else that troubles joshua...bad balance , no defence and has no left hand.......i guarantee you now joshua brutally knocks out wilder and when the dust settles i wiill repost to you and remind you of this post
                The myth that Joshua is slow is one of the most ridiculous things I've constantly heard on this site... his hand speed is very impressive for his size. He'll probably look like the faster guy against Wilder because he's quick but throws his punches much shorter and crisper with superior technique.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                  The fights THEMSELVES show Wilder is a bigger risk of losing ,even if you deny that .Not just getting stunned /knocked down in pro ranks more but rnds LOST .

                  Wilders style has no advantage against Joshuas aggressive counter punch style , hes going to EASILY throw over Wilders lead arm ,over his shoulder and connect with a right and thats end game bc Wilders chin will NOT stand up to many of Joshua power shots.
                  The video I am talking about is the one below:


                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbEL_kQNZUE

                  From the date of the interview, Joshua was already on the horizon but had not yet won the Olympics. Also, Wilder was in a camp with Klitschko and Steward which is contrary to what you stated in your writeup.

                  Not sure you and I are watching the same AJ. AJ does not have a counter-punching style. He is an aggressive, come forward and offensive fighter who prefers to punch 1st rather than respond to his opponent's punches. Can we at least be honest about that?

                  Further, we are going to have to agree to disagree on who has better chance to win. I think Wilder will find AJ before the 12th round expires. I also think Wilder has the better chin. I think Wilder has the bigger heart and confidence.

                  Last thing, I am all for a Wilder-Ortiz rematch. I did not see how Wilder was losing the entire fight like you did. 1st 4 rounds for me were (3-1 at best or 2-2 Ortiz) then 5 - 6 Wilder, 7-8 Ortiz, 9 Wilder. This is how I scored the fight. Last I checked, fights are for 12 rounds not 4, 7, 9, 10. Wilder also knocked Ortiz out so enough with the excuses on that.

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                  • #79
                    It is about damn time that something was said in the right direction by the armchair promoter. I’ll stop ****ting on the stiff one once the fight is made.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Bobby Shaw View Post
                      The fact that he even thought about 50-50 at one time shows he is really delusional. I don't know what kind of pot he smokes over there in Sweet Alabama but he ought to take it down a peg before giving statements to the press. One day he will fly like a kite if he isn't careful.
                      He was talking 50/50 here in the states moron.

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