Does joshua it harder then Ortiz?

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  • dan_cov
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    #31
    AJ hits noway near as hard as either.
    Its all good Scott ran, Allen got 7yrs shaved off his career in 7 rounds but remained upright but who has AJ displayed this power against who hadn't already lost in far better fashion?

    If Ortiz hit Sprott that clean you genuinely believe Sprott takes it? Or Skelton etc

    He forces stoppages with his opponents still upright, barrages until a U.K ref jumps in. Ortiz opponents are out or unable to get back to their feet and that's single shot power. Look what he did to Jennings a guy who took Wlads shots with no issue. He starched Thompson, Allen guys nobody has beaten in better fashion. AJs doing nothing others ain't before.

    He not only hits harder he has better timing to.
    Last edited by dan_cov; 03-09-2018, 08:38 AM.

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    • PensionKiller
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      #32
      AJ and him hit about the same according to one sparring partner. However AJ is more active and hits you more. If Ortiz can make Wilder a bit shakey, then AJ certainly can.

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      • Cutthroat
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        #33
        Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
        You mean threw himself to the floor multiple times? He was literally looking to get out of that fight but Ortiz still couldnt get the job done. I think Wilder, Ortiz and Joshua have all had their power somewhat overhyped. I'm confident Foreman, Shavers etc hit harder. But in terms of power between Joshua and Ortiz, Joshua hits harder.
        No, there were around 4 legitimate knock downs. Scott is a really good defensive fighter from Philly, he's just a mental midget. When Scott fought Chisora he was arguably ahead on the scorecards and could've pulled off a decision before an early stoppage from the ref.

        Foreman and Shavers fought in an era littered with 6'0 heavies, closer to modern day cruisers than the super heavies of today. A big guy is generally going to be more durable than a small guy at HW simply due to weight just like what made Foreman's chin so good. Even Shavers, 6'0 210lbs at his peak, that's really really small for today's era. Guys like David Allen are 6'3 250lbs and carry a ton of muscle.

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        • Cutthroat
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          #34
          Originally posted by oscar9992
          This is a bulls**t. Ortiz had competetive fight with David Allen & couldn't drop him. And David Allen is British level boxer at his best.


          The fight was not competitive at all, it got stopped in 7 rounds because Allen's health was in danger. Allen is 6'3 250lbs and durable, it took AJ a similar amount of time to stop Whyte except Ortiz was nowhere close to getting rocked in his fight.

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          • TheBoxingfan101
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            #35
            AJ hits harder and is much faster too

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            • john l
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              #36
              Originally posted by White Willie
              Commentators ruin everything. Play some whale sounds on YouTube on your computer and mute the tv when watching boxing live.
              I should on HBO,ESPN but on SHOW I really like Paulie Malignaggi.I think he is REAL good and will make hall of fame someday(commentater not boxer)

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              • Boxing Goat
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                #37
                Pffffffffffffff! Not even close! Joshua's power is only matched by Wilder right now. That dude can crack.

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                • oscar9992
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat


                  The fight was not competitive at all, it got stopped in 7 rounds because Allen's health was in danger. Allen is 6'3 250lbs and durable, it took AJ a similar amount of time to stop Whyte except Ortiz was nowhere close to getting rocked in his fight.
                  Whyte can is way tougher than Allen.

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                  • Cutthroat
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by oscar9992
                    Whyte can is way tougher than Allen.
                    Not so sure about that considering Helenius rocked him in their fight, Allen is known for having a granite chin, he's AJ's sparring partner.

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                    • STREET CLEANER
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                      #40
                      What a cercle jerk thread.

                      AJ has speed and accuracy, he is a big man and will hurt his opponents with those counters. A lot of his stoppages is the ref jumping in. Ortiz is heavy handed with technic, he planted himself well and knows what to throw. Ortiz might be the powerful puncher but AJ's technic will get him the same result

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