Does joshua it harder then Ortiz?

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  • boliodogs
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    I think AJ hits harder than Ortiz and is faster and more accurate with his punches. When Ortiz had Wilder in trouble he hit him with lots of punches but almost none of them landed flush or clean. If AJ had Wilder hurt as bad as Ortiz had him hurt AJ would have KOed him quickly. On the other hand if Wilder had AJ hurt as bad as Wlad did he would have finished AJ quickly.

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    • oscar9992
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      #12
      Definitely... He couldn't guys on his resume whom AJ would have easily KO'd.

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      • Vegemil
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        #13
        Originally posted by Stinger1
        This is the biggest myth in boxing at the moment. Ortiz is a decent boxer but never did anything as an amateur outside of Cuba other than get to the quarter-final of the world championships once. AJ won a silver at the world championships and gold at the Olympics. AJ is better, faster, stronger and more powerful. The question is who will land the big punch first. AJ will have no problem dominating the rounds but can he land the big shot to take Wilder out before he hits him?
        Yeah it's a real pickem fight at the moment I'm leaning towards Joshua 60/40.

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        • uppercut510
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          #14
          no idea who hits harder but Joshua will be gassed by round 5

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          • Cutthroat
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            #15
            Originally posted by Mindgames
            Yeah, I can't imagine Malik Scott or Dave Allen hanging in there as long against a determined Joshua.
            Takam could've gone 12 but they stopped it early.

            Scott got dropped/dominated multiple times after running around the ring the whole night and Allen got brutalized in 7 rounds.
            Last edited by Cutthroat; 03-08-2018, 02:41 PM.

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            • Cutthroat
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              #16
              Firstly, people have to remember Wilder only came in 214lbs in this fight due to an illness. Being that underweight, of course his stamina, durability, and even power will suffer. I doubt we'll ever see Wilder in that weak of a state again.

              Their power is around equal but Ortiz' defense is much better, I'd also say his chin is more proven.

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              • W1LL
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                #17
                I don't think Luis Ortiz has particularly awe-inspiring power. He just caught Deontay Wilder sweet at the right time. It's a case of the punches you don't see hurting you. Wilder was too busy trying to get his own off he walked right onto a combo. Anthony Joshua definately has the power to put Wilder on the seat of his pants in a situation like that. I'd say when it comes to raw power, hitting someone clean on the chin, Joshua has more power than Ortiz.

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                • Mindgames
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat
                  Takam could've gone 12 but they stopped it early.
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                  Scott got dropped/dominated multiple times after running around the ring the whole night and Allen got brutalized in 7 rounds.
                  Takam is much better than both guys I mentioned. Scott doesn't get up if AJ drops him. Allen gets stopped quicker too. Wilder said himself Ortiz isn't a puncher.

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                  • Mindgames
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jew85em
                    Dave Allen already has sparred with Joshua multiple times
                    Remember sparring ain't real though. Eubank Jnr proved that. Big gloves and headgear, plus not being an idiot and trying to damage your sparring partner all figure in.

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                    • john l
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Vegemil
                      I think he would have knocked Wilder out with those shots but at the same time Ortiz is a better boxer who could actually land those shots.
                      Good point but I think Ortiz power is close.He is a very heavyhanded guy.He also has the deffence that neither of the two big guys have.

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