This is so ****** its not even worth debating whether canelo took/takes PED's!!!

[turnedup]

WRONG.




"All of the values were below 1ng/ml and therefore in the range of potential meat contamination cases."

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/ne...rd-documentary

That's from WADA. Below 1ng/ml is in the range. Canelo's results were between 0.6 to 0.8.

Try again.

Let's put an end to this right now, fk all the circumstantial shh, fk whether the took it knowingly or not..these are the real questions right here, no personal emotion, just facts and reality.

1. Is Clenbuterol illegal?
2. Did they find clenbuterol in his system?

If you answered yes there is nothing else to say. You are guilty for violating the rules regardless of circumstance. You are responsible for what's in your body and what you can't put in your body. Don't blame cows, don't blame a country, don't blame a meat supply. You fight under these rules and agree to these rules when you apply for a boxing license. If you fall out of line on any of them it's nobody else's fault, you agreed to those terms yourself. You and only you are responsible for what's in your system. END OF STORY.

[Robbie Barrett]

Let's put an end to this right now, fk all the circumstantial shh, fk whether the took it knowingly or not..these are the real questions right here, no personal emotion, just facts and reality.

1. Is Clenbuterol illegal?
2. Did they find clenbuterol in his system?

If you answered yes there is nothing else to say. You are guilty for violating the rules regardless of circumstance. You are responsible for what's in your body and what you can't put in your body. Don't blame cows, don't blame a country, don't blame a meat supply. You fight under these rules and agree to these rules when you apply for a boxing license. If you fall out of line on any of them it's nobody else's fault, you agreed to those terms yourself. You and only you are responsible for what's in your system. END OF STORY.

WADA disagree with your opinion.

“We acknowledge that the clenbuterol meat contamination issue is unsatisfactory,” said Olivier Niggli, Director General, WADA. “Accordingly, since 2011, the Agency has carried out several research studies aimed at providing analytical means to distinguish ingestion of clenbuterol by pharmacological origin versus that of meat contamination,” he continued. “We will continue to invest in scientific research to try to solve this issue as quickly as possible,” Niggli continued. “However, in the meantime, we maintain that disciplinary proceedings against athletes with low level urinary concentrations, from countries known for significant risk of exposure, would have little to no prospect of success; and, would be very unfair to the athletes concerned.”

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/ne...rd-documentary


Who's opinion is more credible yours or WADA's?

[Madison Boxing]

the only people defending canelo are mexicans or well documented golovkin haters. Ive not seen a single poster defending it who doesnt fit into them two categories.

[GGG Gloveking]

WADA disagree with your opinion.

“We acknowledge that the clenbuterol meat contamination issue is unsatisfactory,” said Olivier Niggli, Director General, WADA. “Accordingly, since 2011, the Agency has carried out several research studies aimed at providing analytical means to distinguish ingestion of clenbuterol by pharmacological origin versus that of meat contamination,” he continued. “We will continue to invest in scientific research to try to solve this issue as quickly as possible,” Niggli continued. “However, in the meantime, we maintain that disciplinary proceedings against athletes with low level urinary concentrations, from countries known for significant risk of exposure, would have little to no prospect of success; and, would be very unfair to the athletes concerned.”

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/ne...rd-documentary


Who's opinion is more credible yours or WADA's?

And like I tried to tell you, before you got sensitive blocked me, is that there is no threshold for clenbuterol

[Robbie Barrett]

And like I tried to tell you, before you got sensitive blocked me, is that there is no threshold for clenbuterol

Yes there is for fighters from contaminated meat countries. Read the lnk for **** sake. Any fighter that has clenbuteral levels under 1ng/ml and is from a contaminated meat country goes unpunished.

I know you're going to try and twist the facts posted on the WADA website i linked, because you have no defence, so this will be my last reply to your ******ed arse.

[GGG Gloveking]

Yes there is for fighters from contaminated meat countries. Read the lnk for **** sake. Any fighter that has clenbuteral levels under 1ng/ml and is from a contaminated meat country goes unpunished.

I know you're going to try and twist the facts posted on the WADA website i linked, because you have no defence, so this will be my last reply to your ******ed arse.

This is also from the WADA website...

. WHAT IS THE STATUS OF CLENBUTEROL? UP

Clenbuterol is an anabolic agent that prohibited at all times (i.e., both in- and out-of-competition). There is no threshold under which this substance is not prohibited.

At present, and based on expert opinions, there is no plan for WADA to introduce a threshold level for clenbuterol.

It is possible that under certain circumstances the presence of a low level of clenbuterol in an athlete sample can be the result of food contamination. However, each case is different and all aspects and context of the case need to be taken into account during the results management process. According to the World Anti-Doping Code, the athlete has the opportunity to explain how a prohibited substance entered their body during the results management and/or or hearing phase of their case.

WADA is working closely with specific countries, International Federations and event organizers to help minimize the risk of meat contamination. Food contamination as a public health issue is primarily a matter for governments to resolve.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/questions-answers/prohibited-list-qa

Two things to notice here. First, that wada clearly says there is no threshold. They don't say there is a threshold for Mexicans and Chinese, and no one else. They say no threshold. This means that any quantity found is against the rules.

Secondly, and this is more important, notice where it says "the athlete has the opportunity to explain..." This means that there is going to be a hearing of some sort where the fighter get to explain. If there's a threshold, and it's automatically disregarded, then what is the fighter explaining?

There's only one person trying to twist the facts. It's the guy that keeps putting people on ignore simply for staying facts. You dont have to respond. Everyone here can read for themselves

[WesternChamp]

the only people defending canelo are mexicans or well documented golovkin haters. Ive not seen a single poster defending it who doesnt fit into them two categories.

mexicans aint even defending canelo. the only one defending him is robbie and bigdunny, 2 ******s.

[mathed]

She’s been cheating with roids for the past 5 years or so. They thought the bribe money went down though but ODLH spent it on a kilo instead.

[The Problem Child]

Go home, Chepo. You're drugged.

[Robbie Barrett]

This is also from the WADA website...

. WHAT IS THE STATUS OF CLENBUTEROL? UP

Clenbuterol is an anabolic agent that prohibited at all times (i.e., both in- and out-of-competition). There is no threshold under which this substance is not prohibited.

At present, and based on expert opinions, there is no plan for WADA to introduce a threshold level for clenbuterol.

It is possible that under certain circumstances the presence of a low level of clenbuterol in an athlete sample can be the result of food contamination. However, each case is different and all aspects and context of the case need to be taken into account during the results management process. According to the World Anti-Doping Code, the athlete has the opportunity to explain how a prohibited substance entered their body during the results management and/or or hearing phase of their case.

WADA is working closely with specific countries, International Federations and event organizers to help minimize the risk of meat contamination. Food contamination as a public health issue is primarily a matter for governments to resolve.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/question...ibited-list-qa

Two things to notice here. First, that wada clearly says there is no threshold. They don't say there is a threshold for Mexicans and Chinese, and no one else. They say no threshold. This means that any quantity found is against the rules.

Secondly, and this is more important, notice where it says "the athlete has the opportunity to explain..." This means that there is going to be a hearing of some sort where the fighter get to explain. If there's a threshold, and it's automatically disregarded, then what is the fighter explaining?

There's only one person trying to twist the facts. It's the guy that keeps putting people on ignore simply for staying facts. You dont have to respond. Everyone here can read for themselves

Yes the test is positive. But if they have levels below 1ng/ml and are from a contaminated meat country they get a pass.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand? It's on the WADA site, i gave you the link FFS.

You're trolling or ******ed. Either way i'm done.